(August 10, 2013 at 7:40 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(August 10, 2013 at 7:30 am)Theo Zacharias Wrote: Agree, but what's the point?
The point is that if it does not exist, it is rather absurd to take the agnostic position regarding whether it may or may not exist.
Yes, *if* it does not exist. You never state any evidence nor reason why you think God does not exist.
(August 10, 2013 at 7:40 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(August 10, 2013 at 7:30 am)Theo Zacharias Wrote: I have said many time that I do not claim that I know God exists.
Do you claim to know that God does not exist? Please answer this.
According to the state of evidence in relation to god I can verily state that he does not exist. Simple. Now prove to me that he does, or stop being an ignorant agnostic afraid to take a rational position.
You said "state of evidence"? Please clarify. What evidence that proof God does not exist?
Without being able to answer this, an irrational theist (similar to irrational atheist) can say the same thing to you, something like:
"According to the state of evidence in relation to God I can verily state that He does exist. Simple. Now prove to me that He does not, or stop being an ignorant atheist afraid to take a rational position."
(August 10, 2013 at 7:40 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(August 10, 2013 at 7:30 am)Theo Zacharias Wrote: Please answer this. Do you believe that graviton exist? There is no proof of its existence.
Gravity is real. The term theory does not make it false. If you think gravity is false, please be a dear and jump off a skyscraper. If gravity is false, you will simply float through the air. If gravity is real, you will plummet toward your death. Good luck.
If graviton does not exist, it does not mean that gravity does not exist. Gravity exists regardless graviton exists or not. You certainly do not know what graviton is.