RE: Proof of Christianity
August 11, 2013 at 11:36 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2013 at 11:37 am by CleanShavenJesus.)
(August 11, 2013 at 12:07 am)Locke Wrote:(August 10, 2013 at 11:40 pm)Chas Wrote: Sure, except the Bible is self-contradictory, unsupported by independent sources, and the alleged fulfilled prophecies are not supported.
So it is rational to dismiss it as evidence of anything real.
You're wrong on all three accounts - otherwise I wouldn't have reason to follow it
Ohh, I haven't done this in quite a while. Feels exciting.
1. You claim the Bible isn't self-contradictory. To be fair, Chas never exemplified the contradictions (I guess we like to assume people already know that they're there?) so let me assist his point. Hell, all you need is a simple Google search and a very think knowledge of the Bible, such as mine, to bring up these contradictions:
According to Genesis 1 (and part of 2), the order of creation of our world goes as such:
-Sky, Earth, light
-Water
-Plant-life
-Sun, Moon, stars
-Fish, birds, land animals reptiles, insects, etc.
-Man
-Then God takes the day off
But according to Genesis 2, the order of creation of our world goes as such:
-Earth and heavens
-Adam
-Plants
-Animals
-Eve (from Adam's rib)
Literally, the first two passages of the book contradict each other. But, I understand that criticism of the Old Testament does little to affect Christians. So we'll dive into the New Testament.
Hey, remember Jesus' "buddy" Judas? That prick. Thank God he died. ....how did he die again?
Matthew 27:5 Wrote:So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18 Wrote:With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.
Well, I guess we'll never know. But these contradictions don't really affect the true meaning of the New Testament, I guess. Unless Jesus' "powers" come into question, such as Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial? When did he predict it would occur?
Matthew 26:34 Wrote:Before the cock crow
Mark 14:30 Wrote:Before the cock crow twice
Well, I guess we'll never know. But you know, I don't have the time to point out every Biblical contradiction. So, here's a chart, labeling all 439 of them.
2. Unsupported my independent sources...that's one hundred percent true. I believe it is up to you to introduce these sources. But if you try introducing Flavius or Tacitus, we're going to have a good time.
3. What Biblical prophecies have been fulfilled? Why didn't you provide them? And by fulfilled prophecies, I don't mean prophecies stated earlier in the Bible that come true later in the Bible.
Locke, instead of just saying "Yes it's true. It's never been wrong. It's the Bible," try showing how it's always true and never been wrong. It's called a debate.
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