Unanswered questions

[Angrboda]

"The first version of the vision was written in Joseph Smith's own hand in 1832. It was personal. It merely dealt with his sinfulness and his going to the grove to ask God for forgiveness. End of story. Subsequently, over the next 12 years, there were other versions that emerged from Joseph Smith, where the story got more detailed and more colorful. And one of the later versions became the official version."
— from "The Mormons", PBS: American Experience

(quoted in the original Messengers/Message thread)

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I don't know if I saw a "Capitol A"ngel or just a messenger, but what stuck me was what he had to say.

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He told me of comming prosperity, but not for my benfit so I could live in luxuary, but so I could help others ... I have been given my own company which has grown by double to a factor of 5 every year since we started in 03, and since have rolled what we do, over into dealership in '07. Which has since afforded us another oppertunity to split the company and place us in a position to sell equipment to competing dealers.

I was told I was going to be a spiritual leader

I can tell you that if I was told that I would have to endure a 250 dollar aday herion addicted wife, for the first 5 years of our marriage, or near bankruptcy, or alienation from my family, or loss of friends or being shunned from our church, or any of the really bad things I am not going to talk about here I would have probably taken the easy way out along time ago. I was given exactly what I need to endure those trials and nothing else. [i.e. none of the bad stuff]

"Because these avenues are typically how Satan speaks. the way we can tell between the two messages, is that ... 'Other' messages seem to appeal to one's vanity." — Drich

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I don't know about that. Have you heard about the "angel" that told him the future?

So again if someone out of the blue were to lay out every major event in your life, and told you He was from God, and gave you a list of things to focous on, would you brush it off even if everything he said started to unfold as he said it, or would you do as you were instructed?

(emphasis mine, here and later)

You have confused a retelling with a given senerio. The segment you quoted was a small piece of a greater point, not a retelling of my specific situation.

I quoted no "segment." I read over the story multiple times to see if I could harmonize what you've written in this thread, in which you claim he told you he was from God, with what you wrote in that previous thread and it simply cannot be made consistent. Nowhere in that entire thread do you claim that he told you he was from God. That's a rather striking omission, if true, and makes the whole "guardian angel" bit rather beside the point. I even checked a related thread to see if you'd ever gotten back to me about finding the original written account you claimed you had made; not surprisingly, you never did get back to me. Your story as recounted in Messengers/Message thread is simply not consistent with what you have told us in this thread. On top of everything else, you claim that he pointed the way to your marrying your crack whore wife, and yet you still had to agonize over whether or not to stick by her. ("I was told I was going to be ... a Husband ... to one God specifically groomed for me.") The pieces simply do not fit.

Later in that thread you explain why you wrote the story down afterward, saying, "I gave the guy 2 dollars when we parted ways, and wrote the story down as soon as I got to a place I could do so. Why because He gave me so many future events to look after I wanted to see if they would come true." No mention that he said he was from God there, either. I guess guys claiming to be from God were such a common occurrence in your life at that time that you didn't think it worth mentioning. And I guess you didn't think it strange that he claimed to be from God, yet he needed cash and a ride.

Further on in that thread, we discuss your belief that the angel was a "messenger from God." Again, no mention that he had claimed to be from God, though it would have been rather pertinent, as that is specifically what I had asked. But let's see your own words:

If I'm not misreading you, you concluded that this gentleman who was "something like that" was a messenger from God,

I start saying is I don't know if he was a proper Angel or if he simply carried a message from God. Simply carring the message technically makes one an angel, but does not nessarily mean one is a spirit based being who lives with God "Angel"

If he had indeed said that he was from God, why all this rubbish about proper angels? A simple, "he said he was from God," would have made infinitely more sense. Moreover, in your OP you state that, "I tell you all of this to say a angel is a messenger from God." Your exposition in that thread simply doesn't make sense in light of him having told you that he was from God.... unless, at that point in your development of this little Christian morality tale, you hadn't added that detail.

It wasn't the fact that i did this or that. It was that a 'man' told me what I was going to do 4 to 5 years before I did it.

Another opportunity to let us in on the secret that he said he was from God. Maybe you didn't mention it because neither did he.

...I have told the story a few times, and if I were looking to perfect anything I would have by now. The story is told to the best of my ablity to recount the events. Theological fundi flaws and all. It stands or falls on the merrit of what I can recall. Nothing added nothing taken away.

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And now, rather than admitting as much, you attempt to cover over the inconsistencies with a diversionary excuse and accusing me of being "confused."

I guess we can add that you are an unrepentant liar to the list of things we know about you.