(August 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: People can always disagree. And as long as they do so with grace, I think people should be free to hash out these ideas. Unfortunately, some activists want to equate preaching against homosexuality as a form of hate speech. I find that much more objectionable.
You are more than welcome to preach against homosexuality from your pulpits. When that preaching crosses into the public forum, a conglomerate of different religious viewpoints, your right to condemn others becomes limited. A person may very well believe that using computers is a sin, but they do not have the right to deny others their liberties based upon those beliefs.
I object to your finding it labeled as hate speech as "much more objectionable." While hate speech is most likely the incorrect term, to claim saying it is hate speech is worse than telling people they deserve to go to hell is just a weak and illegitimate attempt at pointing the finger back at your accuser.
(August 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And yes, I do think sodomy is a sin. Even heterosexuals deal with various fetishes and compulsions that are also sins. So its not a prejudice against any set of people, but rather a range of sexual practices that are contrary to God's gift of sexual pleasure.
These, however, are just your beliefs. I believe country music rots the brain and is a detriment to society, but I do recognize the rights of others to listen to what they please.
(August 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: My concern remains limited to the cultural acceptance, and promotion, of practices I believe are harmful to the soul. If you think that's bullshit, that is your right and you can say its bullshit.
Your concern is not bullshit. What is bullshit is to think that religious beliefs give anyone a right to dictate how others live.
(August 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: But I think trying to characterize me as a bigot that hates gay people is not only inaccurate ; it reveals a fascist attitude of activists who disagree and cannot tolerate any difference of opinion from their own.
When did I characterize you as a bigot? Are you referring to the KKK comment? That was just to show that opinions and beliefs don't give anyone the right to deny others their liberties.
Labeling someone a bigot is not a fascist attitude, anyways. It is expressing the idea that the position person holds is unreasonable and based upon uncontrollable factors. It is similar to labeling anyone who doesn't agree with your(not you) political beliefs an 'idiot.'
And of course not all religious people that think homosexuality is a sin are bigots. The ones that are simply using god as prejudice by proxy are bigots. There are plenty of others that are just misguided.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell