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Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism
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RE: Verse 4:59 - Rayaan - a challenge to your Sunnism! :P
1. There is many Sunni hadiths about obeying a ruler even if he is unjust and oppresses you and takes away your wealth or have hearts of devils etc...some say to disobey them in matters that you would have disobey God. But others don't even mention that criteria.

2. What is the definition of authority per Sunni view? It seems whoever got the military power was an authority. What is the criteria of having authority? For example, from "believers" there was Mauwiya and Ali ibn Abi Talib...they both testified to Islam per Sunni view. They were both believers per Sunni view. And they were both taken as leaders from Sunni point of view. How does one get the station of authority per Sunnism? And how do you define it, in a way, you don't get authorities that fight one another?

3. If the position of secular authority was annulled by divinely appointed leaders...for example..Nabi Yahya and the King of his time, Yahya would hold authority while the King of his time, would be a fake authority. In light of this, what is the criteria of authority if secular authority is rejected in presence of a Prophet for example.
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Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - Rayaan - a challenge to your Sunnism! :P - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 26, 2013 at 3:03 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 26, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by paulpablo - August 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 28, 2013 at 4:27 pm

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