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Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism
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RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism
(August 21, 2013 at 6:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:3. If the position of secular authority was annulled by divinely appointed leaders

Why is it that the "king" who won ended up claiming that he was divinely appointed?

Ever give that any thought? We went through this shit in the West.


The fucking French had the right idea.

There is many hadiths about obeying a ruler even if he is unjust and has a satanic heart. Some hadiths say to just disobey him in matters that involve disobeying God.

The Bible similar teaches to obey rulers and that kings should be obeyed.

However Shiism rejected authority that doesn't stem from God's authority. In fact all religious, spiritual, secular, judicial authorities that are not sanctioned by God were referred to as the "Taghut" in Shia hadiths. The Taghut concept is in the Quran, which states, the disbelievers guardians and authorities are the Taghut, while believers disbelieve in it.
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Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by MysticKnight - August 21, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 26, 2013 at 3:03 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 26, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by paulpablo - August 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Verse 4:59 - A challenge to Sunnism - by Minimalist - August 28, 2013 at 4:27 pm

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