(January 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm)Saerules Wrote: You seem to have taken my statement of A to mean B I'm hardly referring to the people believing in religion (although i do find those who do to be silly in their stance ), but rather to the religious material itself Hence how nonsense can have that effect... and the rest of the time it just confuses me
Religious material is just nonsense? What about the Illiad? Or The Epic of Gilgamesh? Are all the ancient myths just nonsense to be ignored? I'm sure you will say no. ALL I have said is that I find religion interesting and I love studying the subject. If you had said you thought the works of Shakespeare were nonsense I would have commented too. It's not confusing if you sit down and try to understand it. Rather than dismissing the Christian idea of the trinity, I find it interesting to try to get my head around it. I don’t agree with Aristotle either, but it was necessary to understand his ideas whilst I was at uni.
(January 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm)Saerules Wrote: However, when it comes to people believing in religion (IE your list), i do find them silly (though not idiotic) for their belief in religions That otherwise smart people were/are silly enough to believe in religion doesn't speak for their intelligence... only that they believe something without proof or with a great deal of personal evidence
I still wouldn’t say silly, as it’s fairly patronising, and I like to have a degree of respect for other people regardless of their views, but I somewhat agree with you here regarding to people now. I think more open minded religious people are not silly, as there still is no definite proof that there is no God, it’s just most likely the case that there isn’t. However, the type of people such as the God Hates Fags lot I totally agree. Blind inability to even have a conversation on the matter is just idiotic, but if someone can hold a well informed argument on the existence of God, then I’m not going to say they are silly.
People in the past, however, you can somewhat see it wasn’t silly, as the world is an incredibly complex thing, let alone the universe, so a deity would have been a more plausible explanation than it is considered to be today.
It’s important to remember now how big the leaps in science have been for the last 100 years or so. I mean, in the west, before Darwin, the creation myth of the Bible was the only one taught, so it’s not silly to only believe that. I’m sure people of our time will also look pretty silly in their beliefs in 1,000 years time. (Especially if there is a God! D’oh! What were we doing not facing Mecca at set times every day!!!)
(January 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm)Saerules Wrote: It does not mean that their beliefs should even be truly considered by anyone else... because then we would have people accepting what lunatics have faith in as true (which already seems to happen to an extent).
No, but it does mean that someone like me can find their beliefs interesting! That is all I’m saying. I also find the ravings of lunatics interesting too. If someone wants to rant at me about how there’s a world conspiracy and the twin towers were brought down by the US government, who is run by the freemasons, I’ll listen to them too. Doesn’t mean I have to agree.