RE: Yet another school shooting
August 25, 2013 at 7:01 am
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2013 at 7:10 am by Napoléon.)
(August 24, 2013 at 7:34 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: This is getting sickening, guys. When the entire thread is just everyone bitching about guns without actually talking about the tragedy itself, or the incident itself? You guys might wanna check your priorities; because if you're discussing the politics before you're discussing the incident itself? You've already fucked up as an empathetic individual.
Oh give me a fucking break.
People can and will bring up whatever issues they please. Doesn't mean they aren't sympathetic. To some people the issues they bring up are to try and solve the problem so that children never have to die in such a horrific way. Did that ever occur to you?
No, you just get hung up on the fact you don't agree when people bring up an issue with gun control in your country. That doesn't make you feel comfortable, does it?
Just because you disagree with the fact that people bring it up, doesn't mean what they're saying is "messed up" etc.
Nor does it mean they don't care about the victims, in fact, it's quite the opposite.
And as for this:
Quote:I like how nobody notices that the man was charged with "possession of a firearm by a convicted felon."
He did not come by that firearm legally. You really think gun control laws would've done anything to stop this guy? No. The gun itself is illegal to own in the US under the assault rifle ban. AK-47s are illegal to purchase. I own one myself but I have it fully registered and track-logged, and purchased it before the AR ban. THIS guy, however? I somehow doubt he got this gun legitimately.
No shit! He didn't get it legally? OMG well that just immediately invalidates everyone's points about gun control! Right? RIGHT?!?
Criminals don't care about the law? REALLY????
You think because guns are illegal to carry in the UK we automatically have no gun related deaths or shootings? Ofcourse not. You said that yourself. No one has said he got the gun legally, but it doesn't invalidate the proposition that better regulation and control of guns in America would of perhaps made it harder for him to access such a gun.
If you want to compare the UK and USA like you so conveniently brought up, take a look at the comparison of gun related deaths in both countries.
Here, in case you can't be arsed to do it yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...death_rate
No one here to the best of my knowledge has said better gun control would stop these incidents from happening, but I'd bet my life that it would stop them from being such a common occurrence.
Now I don't personally know how he got hold of such a weapon, could be you're right, and he went to some illegal black market to purchase his gun, something gun regulation wouldn't really help (which is probably still debatable, but I'll concede that one if you like). Or he got it off a legitimate gun owner who was careless in keeping it. Now if he say stole it off someone who should of kept that gun in a gun safe but didn't, I'd turn to you and ask why someone had such a gun in the first place, and why it wasn't better looked after. Then I'd try and suggest ways to make the place a bit safer. But here's the thing, none of this means that I don't give a fuck about those kids who were shot. So get off your god damn moral high horse.
To me, it's you who has "whacked out priorities".
If there is a problem I personally tend to look for solutions, rather than dwell on the problem. Guess I've "fucked up as an empathetic individual" eh?
And for the record, when I say "I tend look for solutions", I just think better gun control is one of those potential solutions.
