(August 25, 2013 at 12:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I did not have to read past this initial false statement to know the rest of your diatribe is pure bullshit.
Most atheists will contend that should real, verifiable evidence be provided to support the existence of a god they would believe that god exists.
Indeed most atheists may contend exactly what you say.
But my point is in no way negated by that. It remains that if one is unwilling to believe, for whatever reason(s), then no amount of "verifiable evidence" will convince them. For this evidence would simply be explained away.
Numerous occasions of this happening are recorded in scripture.
You seem to think I am saying that atheists would still be atheists if they were given evidence that they would consider to be verifiable and good evidence. That is not what I am saying.
(August 25, 2013 at 12:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: What one learns from that god upon realizing the god is real, however, would then determine whether the god was worthy of worship, if it even required it. If the god is anything as portrayed in the bible, then he would not be worthy of worship whatsoever.
For the one who holds your views, dialogue is simple. No argument really need be given to you. For you would not surrender your life to Christ even if you were convinced God existed. Huxley, Nagel, and people like yourself are actually easier to deal with and talk to. Once it is found that there is deeply rooted resentment and reluctance to worship God, no proof or argument need be given. For your reluctance to acknowledge God is ultimately not an intellectual one at all, but rather an emotional, willful resistance.
Here, something Ravi Zacharias said is so pertinent...
A man rejects God neither because of intellectual demands nor because of the scarcity of evidence. A man rejects God because of a moral resistance that refuses to admit his need for God.
