(August 26, 2013 at 4:34 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Yes, what was the universe before it was the universe.
Since nothing that begins to exist actually comes into being from nothing. Everything that begins to exist is made of prior existing stuff. So, what was the universe made out of?
The universe was not made from prior existing stuff it was created from nothing by God. You're talking about "creatio ex materia" which creation from matter but then you're the one who has to explain where that previously existing matter came from to begin with. God not having being created from any kind of substance to begin with himself avoids this problem, and leaves him free to get on with the business of creation.
Quote:Just because everything IN The Universe has a cause, what makes you fallaciously assume The Universe as a WHOLE was caused?
From nothing comes nothing.
Quote:That's called the fallacy of composition...any questions?
1) Chicken
2) Egg
3) Omelette
Is that a fallacy of composition as well?
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.