RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 26, 2013 at 5:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2013 at 5:49 pm by Sword of Christ.)
(August 26, 2013 at 5:33 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Nope, those physical laws are a part of the universe. Try again. You're gonna need a shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you've voluntarily jumped into.
...God created the physical laws when he created the universe, along with all the physical dimensions such as space and time. That's the point here those laws don't exist beyond our own universe, God is beyond them and not a part of them.
(August 26, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why? Because you say so?
No not because I say so but because this is how the Christian God created the universe, this is the theology here.
Quote:It's hardly irrelevant to the question of your two premises that "your" "proof" (i.e. the one you lifted from WLC) depends on.
I "lifted it" from ancient Church doctrine on the nature of God as the creator of the universe not WLC. Besides you haven't explained the logical inconsistency in this theology. This appears to hold up better than your alternative of a universe without a creator/cause which apparently began to exist by itself for no reason. Really? Why do you think that?
Quote: It fucking invalidates both of them, rendering "your" (i.e. WLC's) conclusion both invalid and unsound.
The alternative to God you're endorsing makes no damn sense at all and is easily just much your own opinion as God would be mine! Apparently it's not an opinion if it's your own opinion. One rule for you and another rule for everyone else eh?
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
