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Belief
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RE: Belief
Quote:I think that, yes, there is. Because I think that if you define 'faith' as simply belief without evidence, then by definition that's a different way of 'putting it' than how you 'put it'.
But the way you define 'faith' (as simply something 'without evidence' [which is subjective]) is the same way i define having a LOT of faith Tongue

Quote:I certainly don't think faith applies in any definition to absolute knowledge. And Omniscience is absolute knowledge (and of course, of everything) I believe.
It would have to, because to have that 'knowledge' you have to assume that you are right (because the assumption that one is right is knowing), which means that without faith: it would be entirely circular, which should require all the more faith. Tongue

One has to have faith, or else they couldn't make the assumption that they know anything... let alone that they know everything. Tongue

*braces self to chase Evie's tail around and around and around and around and....* Tongue
(January 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I was trying to tease out of you your thinking regarding faith and knowledge. The 'knowledge' of course is independently added (to a computer) - that it will then use to reach conclusions. If this is not cogitation then are people suggesting that the brain does not and cannot function in this way??

How can a computer 'assume'? Data presented to it has to be accurate so it cannot produce an inaccurate conclusion. It's either yes, no, or tied. There is no need to assume. Tongue

That is it's assumption Tongue

If we don't assume the data to be accurate: we get nowhere Smile That's why we need to take what we think there is enough evidence of on faith, thus creating knowledge Tongue

Everyone needs faith in at least something Tongue Otherwise they wouldn't be able to do anything at all, and then they'd be doing nothing, which would be something, and ZOMG! Tongue
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Belief - by Darwinian - January 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: Belief - by A897 - January 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 10, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: Belief - by Meatball - January 12, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 10:23 am
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 5:46 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 6:29 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 6:34 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 7:07 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: Belief - by Ashes1995 - January 10, 2010 at 4:15 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 4:33 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: Belief - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2010 at 6:54 am
RE: Belief - by Tiberius - January 10, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 10, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm
RE: Belief - by leo-rcc - January 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm
RE: Belief - by Amphora - January 12, 2010 at 2:08 am
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 12, 2010 at 2:27 am
RE: Belief - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2010 at 2:10 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 12, 2010 at 4:11 am
RE: Belief - by Meatball - January 15, 2010 at 1:16 pm
RE: Belief - by LEDO - January 16, 2010 at 8:18 am

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