RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 27, 2013 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2013 at 3:27 pm by CleanShavenJesus.)
(August 27, 2013 at 2:41 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(August 27, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Part of believing in God is knowing a basic rule required to be followed by all who believe:
1. God just is. He is all. His existence is immune to the inquiry of origin. His abilities and attributes are immune to logical laws.
Once convinced of this, they think the following to be quite obvious,and in fact feel quite confident in fabricating the following...
2. God is the origin of all things. Logical laws are prescribed by him. No ability or attribute held by God can be rationally understood by man.
The third rule is excersised quite frequently here, which is:
Any objection to rule 2, refer to rule 1.
God doesn't have an origin, I keep having to repeat this point for some reason.
Quote:"Why can't the universe not have an origin?"
1) The universe began to exist
2) If there are physical laws that created the BB they all began to exist effected by a cause as well
3) You have to start the ball rolling from somewhere else the ball would never roll
4) You need an explanation for anything/everything that exists that begins to exist
Honestly, are you reading back everything you type before you submit it? Why is it that the universe must have a beginning, but God is allowed to have always exsted?
You keep saying it's impossible for the universe to just be. You want a beginning to it. But it's possible for God to just be? There's no beginning of/for him? On what grounds can you say this? Why doesn't God have to follow the four "laws" you put out for the universe?
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water
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