Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?

[Jackalope]

Oh, yes. If God does exist, then you would be correct in saying this. But, you and I would still be taking this on faith, not logic.

This is logical deduction I've taken you through the steps a million times.

And we'll be here to point out the flaws in your "logic" a million times. Which you will ignore, of course.

Everything that exists has been caused by something that exists but not that which caused everything to exist.

Virtual particles. Keep ignoring this. Keep that standard of intellectual honesty nice and low.

You can not have an infinite series of effects that go back forever without there ever being within that chain of effects any one first cause.

You can prove this, yes? (By "yes", of course I mean "no", because you can't.) I would agree that it intuitively would seem improbable, but intuition is not proof, and improbability does not equal impossibility.

The infinite regress and the uncaused cause are both *equally illogical*. That one is chosen over the other is a matter of preference. I for one choose to not make a choice, because it's not entirely clear that our idea of causality is even demonstrably correct. That's the rub. "Demonstrably correct".

Let that sink in.

"Demonstrably correct".

Contemplate what those words mean.

Where the flipping heck does faith come into this?

Faith comes into it when YOU assume that you have answers that you in fact do not possess.

You know not. Worse, you know not that you know not.

You don't take this on faith this is rational, logical deduction that you can figure out by yourself.

Wrong. Hey, asserting things without proof IS fun. Thanks for turning me on to it.

Forget all about faith for moment and just think about this logically.

LOL. You first.

Oh wait. You second.