(August 30, 2013 at 1:52 am)ronedee Wrote: I think I'd like a look see. what "IF" the afterlife is something completely different than what we know it as?
What "IF" God indeed was so vastly superior in scope that anything is possible. Many facets (trillions if you will) of different possibilities! And remember, if time was invented by God, its just an illusion, and the real thing (unimaginable) is waiting!
No... I'll take a peek at what He's got to offer! I could always turn Him down if I'm not liking it!
It's really hard to argue with something as hazy and completely divorced from reality as the logic you're putting forth. If you're just going to believe in some vague "everything will turn out okay because god," then how is anyone supposed to respond to you?
Quote:Ancient man = superstitious. I'm goin' w/ Jesus here! God is "merciful and loving"
But the new testament was written by the same kind of superstitious people. How do you know anything in the bible reflects reality if you're going to think like this?
Quote:Of course I wouldn't. But, if they never came to me and told me they cared and loved me...AS I HAVE THEM. I would not think of them much. Why? It would hurt!
Okay, fine, I don't think you've really understood my point, here. You keep making analogies to real world situations with consequences vastly different from the heaven/hell dichotomy, without understanding that such an analogy is faulty by definition. Not thinking about someone is very different from trapping them in some nether-realm.
Quote:Yes.... because I don't believe men! Remember...we're all (including me) LIARS!
I want to see God's face!
Well, then my question to you would be, why would you believe anything in the bible, if you're willing to disregard the stories in it as lies? Aren't the good parts also written by the same people? It seems to me like you're just cherry picking, taking the parts you like as accurate while dismissing the inconvenient parts as the words of liars, but in the bible you've described the entire thing could be a lie and you'd have no way of knowing. So why believe it?
Quote:You might find this hard to believe...or maybe not.... but I never NOT believed. Even as a child I felt His presence in my life!
That's the problem.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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