I love religion!

[Zen Badger]

If your atheism denotes that "there is no god" is an absolute and "ultimate" truth, and that you get some form of meaning from that, then you are being religious.

I don't see how you can be agnostic and claim some ultimate truth about the existence of God though. The very point of being agnostic is to claim this knowledge is unknown or unknowable. If something is a truth, it is known by definition...

But I'm not talking about my views.

I'm merely speaking in the abstract, as how atheism could be seen as an ultimate truth.

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Take away people and there is no art, philosophy, literature, etc. either. Religion is just ideas and beliefs, nothing more. You might as well have a go at philosophy, or to an extent, economics, or some other theoretical belief system our species has come up with.

Yes? and that disproves my original point how?
And I will have a go at philosphy. And especially economics.

Religion isn’t simply there to control people, no matter how much you insist it is. Guru Nanak was not simply trying to control people; something more complex is involved, like social issues, thought, belief, and so on.

Maybe not this particular person, but can you say the same about the Catholic church or Islam?
or any of the nutbag cults like the branch dividians or the Scientologists?

You say that people use it as an excuse not to think, but that’s the person’s flaw, not a theoretical construct’s problem.

You are very critical of theology, but yet you are repeating the same basic things over and over, and then ignoring the comments that disagree with you. You’ve even tried to ignore the dictionary and re-define what a religion is! You are essentially just trying to make things fit your world view regardless of the evidence that is presented, which is as bad as what you accuse fundamentalists of doing.

How have I tried to redefine religion? And I've yet to see any evidence presented, just your point
of view.And of course I'm critical of theology, what were you expecting?

I'm not asking you to take religion seriously. I'm not actually asking you to do anything at all. I was simply stating that I think there is more to religion than I think many atheists give credit to. You are proving me right with every post.

One question my friend.

If you think religion is wonderful, why are you an atheist?