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Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
(August 2, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Golbez Wrote: So I've long dabbled in theological debate, and watched a number of them on youtube as well. One line of questioning has piqued my interest. Atheists know what would convince them that God is real. There is established criteria for which we could not deny the existence of God - his holy presence manifested in some unambiguous, obvious godly form, before a reasonable audience (easy thing to do if you, say, occupy the vast majority of the sky over the US, for example), performing any number of supernatural feats that defy the laws of physics. Maybe an upsidedown volcano in the sky that erupts and disappears before it touches anything. Maybe having it actually rain locusts globally, which turn into broccoli afterwards, etc. You know, supernatural business. Do something supernatural, and make it literally spectacular.

Or, shit, heal an amputee. But I digress.

Anyway, we have criteria which could convince us. Evidence could present itself. The possibility exists. We could be wrong. We'd have to accept it.

But do you have a similar set of circumstances, where it can be proven to you that God doesn't exist? Or at least that there's no reason to suspect that he does? What is it about our existence that demands that there is a god, which if you found a legitimate explanation for, you could let go? Would you be willing to accept that argument, if confronted with the evidence/reasoning/explanation?

Do you allow yourself the possibility that you are wrong? Do you have an out, or are you forever bound to the belief of religion, regardless of the evidence put forth against it?

If so, what would it be? What instance, or discovery, or scientific theory (much more than just conjecture - based on mounds of facts), would it take to free you from your faith? I hope you'll weigh in. I'm quite interested in the responses to this question. Thanks!

This is an awesome question.

Yes, I allow myself the possibility that I'm wrong. But that's just ridiculous because I am not.
Yes, I am forever bound to my religion.

Kidding aside, I honestly don't know. Like an atheist, I want empirical, irrefutable evidence that God does not exist. (Although I don't demand empirical, irrefutable that God does exist). This means that someone would have to be able to prove, universally, that God doesn't exist? I cannot even imagine how one would begin to mount that kind of investigation.

I am going to pose this question to some of my fellow Christians and my friend at work who is an atheist. It will be interesting to hear what they say.

Found this, just FYI:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic...eists.html
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong? - by Max_Kolbe - September 4, 2013 at 11:34 pm

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