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Belief
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RE: Belief
(January 12, 2010 at 3:16 pm)Meatball Wrote:
(January 10, 2010 at 4:28 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: You're right. God is an atheist, he has no belief in a god who created him.
A deity is not defined as a creator and theism is not defined by believing in a creator.
The god of christianity is defined in that way. So the god of christianity is an atheist.

Meatball Wrote:I would say that we can't make a claim within the context of the bible that God is an atheist. He mandates that his people not worship "other gods". Does he ever make an explicit statement regarding other gods being false? Does he ever explicitly acknowledge his own power? Belief in yourself as a god is still theism.
I would say we can. For the christian god makes it very clear there is no other god. He is the only one. So he does not belief in a god who may have created him. He is the so called first cause according to the bible. So he clearly is an atheist about other gods (the Hindu gods for example) and about a god who might have created him.

Its comparable to the assertion that every christian is an atheist about other gods than the christian one (whatever that may be).
(January 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I mean absolute as in what it says in itself - "all knowing"
So his all-knowing is not dependent on logic?
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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Messages In This Thread
Belief - by Darwinian - January 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: Belief - by A897 - January 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 10, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: Belief - by Meatball - January 12, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 10:23 am
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 5:46 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 6:29 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 6:34 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 7:07 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 15, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: Belief - by Ashes1995 - January 10, 2010 at 4:15 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 4:33 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: Belief - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2010 at 6:54 am
RE: Belief - by Tiberius - January 10, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: Belief - by Purple Rabbit - January 10, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm
RE: Belief - by leo-rcc - January 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm
RE: Belief - by Amphora - January 12, 2010 at 2:08 am
RE: Belief - by Violet - January 12, 2010 at 2:27 am
RE: Belief - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2010 at 2:10 pm
RE: Belief - by fr0d0 - January 12, 2010 at 4:11 am
RE: Belief - by Meatball - January 15, 2010 at 1:16 pm
RE: Belief - by LEDO - January 16, 2010 at 8:18 am

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