RE: Are jews going to hell now?
September 10, 2013 at 8:37 am
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2013 at 9:08 am by Drich.)
(September 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm)Ryantology Wrote:You do not have to agree with anything I say when talking about the God of the bible, but you are bound by what the bible says when talking about The God Of Th BIBLE.(September 9, 2013 at 10:21 am)Drich Wrote: then use it.
How if you indeed have a brain can you say any of the things you have asserted above that the bible does not support, and then hold your conclusions from the straw man you have constructed against the God of the bible?
Maybe you should have said you have an imagination, and will illogically use your imaginings to give yourself a reason not to worship God.
You seem to believe that one must agree with what the Bible says in order to correctly understand what it depicts. I shouldn't need to tell you everything that's wrong with this belief.
(September 10, 2013 at 1:03 am)max-greece Wrote:(September 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm)Drich Wrote: Well, Revelations clearly says 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel. Unless a specific JW is actually an undercover Jew from a given tribe, then there will be no JWs among that 144,000.They follow the teaching of 'Jehovah' (the god over Jesus) and the 'Watch Tower.' When ever the two are in conflict the watch tower trumps the bible. Which makes their worship watch tower centered. Not Christ centered. Anyone who worships the method of worship over God who is to be worshiped, does not meet the the conditions of the greatest Command. That is to Love God with all of our being.
Matter of fact I do not think an JWs EVER have to worry about the parking situation in Heaven.
So interestingly you don't think JW's get to go to heaven - if I understood the parking jibe.
Yet they follow Jesus do they not?
This doesn't seem to marry very well with many of your other posts.
That said can a brother who sits in the pues of a JW church get into Heaven? Absolutly. However if he is in Heaven then he was not a JW. Again our title we assign ourselves mean nothing. God is the one who judges what we are. even, so we do stand a better chance of being judged a 'christian' if we indeed make the outward proclaimation to follow Christ.
(September 10, 2013 at 6:41 am)Brakeman Wrote:(September 10, 2013 at 1:03 am)max-greece Wrote: So interestingly you don't think JW's get to go to heaven - if I understood the parking jibe.
Yet they follow Jesus do they not?
This doesn't seem to marry very well with many of your other posts.
More than that, they pray and talk to jesus, yet jesus doesn't warn them that they are on the wrong track. To the contrary, jesus warns them against other religious doctrines such a Drich's.
Somebody that talks to jesus wouldn't LIE!
actually Jesus does speak to them as He does with EVERYONE else, through the bible and yet they have elected to worship 'Jehovah' and the watchtower first. (Jehovah being the supreme God over everything including Christ.)