(September 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm)John V Wrote:Why not?(September 12, 2013 at 9:30 am)pocaracas Wrote: The trouble is when some people claim that I (and everyone else) should adhere to the same line of reasoning, the same gullibility.Do you think that I should adhere to the current mainstream scientific line of reasoning regarding evolution?
It does have a lot of evidence to back it up.
And if it turns out to be wrong, then heck, it was wrong...
(September 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm)John V Wrote:Oh, I'm not knowledgeable on those subjects... they are. There may be others... like the girl on this BBC documentary:Quote:You see them as historical?Yes.
Quote:Have you tried to learn about biblical historicity?Feel free to make an argument against historicity if you like. Saying that some characters strike you as fictional, or referring me to the biggest asshole on the board and youtube, isn't doing much.
One of the things I admire in our fellow forumer, minimalist, is his knowledge of this historicity.... you also have Bart Ehrman and others out there on youtube.
(September 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm)John V Wrote:I fail to understand how someone keeps his faith in spite of all the available information... or lack thereof.Quote:Couldn't the bible, or better, christianity have done so itself? Is this line of reasoning that much of a stretch?Could have? Sure. Are you trying to convince me that my faith is to some extent...faith? I could've told you that.
At some point, reason must be getting overridden in those brains...
(September 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm)John V Wrote: Some Biblical teachings are IMO unlikely to have come from men. I can't see why bronze-age goatherders would have given their servants and even their animals every seventh day off from work, or why they would forgive debts every seventh year, or forbid planting of crops every seventh year. Critics frequently say it's cruel to punish gathering firewood on the Sabbath with death...why would they put that law in there?
ah... not goatherders... well, not most.... bronze-age city dwellers. Remember? there were cities back then... sure, no New York with millions on inhabitants, but cities nonetheless.