RE: The bible identifies the Christ as a False Prophet
September 17, 2013 at 10:57 am
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2013 at 11:28 am by Godscreated.)
(September 17, 2013 at 9:31 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Drich and GC
This passage regarding "there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom" has led rise to the "wandering Jew" legend. Some people believe that one of those who witnessed Jesus' trial was doomed to keep walking the earth until Jesus' second coming. So somewhere out there's supposedly a 2000-year-old Jew who can't die until the second coming. I almost expected Drich to bring this up "the burden of proof is on you to show that every man standing there listened to Jesus actually died and one of them isn't still alive somewhere," but he took it in another direction. Apparently the second coming really did happen 2000 years ago and all these Christians waiting for Jesus to come back are all heretics.
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Please explain how I'm wrong.
GC(September 17, 2013 at 1:05 am)max-greece Wrote:(September 16, 2013 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Kingdom of Christ is the Christian Church, and it was going before those He spoke to were dead. Jesus is the ruler of the church and the lives it encompasses.
You get that from this:
“Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 16:28
I don't know GC - that seems more than a stretch to me. Surely its a reference to the second coming which did not happen in any of their lifetimes - unless one or more of them is secretly still alive today....
Matthew 16:24-28 are the verses that go together, Jesus is describing salvation which brings people into the Kingdom. Without the people there would be no Kingdom, an empty Kingdom is no Kingdom at all. The people are the church and the Kingdom is the church ie. the people.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
