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Part 3
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RE: Part 3
(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If everyone "knows" that god exists, then what need is there for belief... or lack thereof?
Simple belief in god is not the end Goal of those who A/S/K for Him. It is a personal relationship. This process merely starts at belief.
Once you're convinced you can talk to something that doesn't exist, you can do anything with it...
Remember how imaginary friends work, when you're a kid?



(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:It only serves to show that most people in the world follow what their ancestors were led to believe, due to sheer ignorance and gullibility.
I do not disagree, for some do. However that is not to say ALL do.
I never said "all", did I?

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:We are, today, living a great time, a time of enlightenment,
So said buddha about 630BC
And it just keeps getting better!

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:the age of information. It's possible that the majority of the human population today has access to information that was unthinkable just some 50 years ago...
Ah, no. appearently you do not have access to said information either or you would have looked up your facts before trying to preach them.
You and people like you live among the top 20% the rest of the world lives in such a mess the vast majority of the 20%'ers would simply curl up and die if made to live like everyone else.
20%, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage claims it's more like 40% with access to the internet... How many have access to information like the one we had in the 80's? libraries, books and the like?... I'd wager it's the majority of the world's population... or more than 50%.

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote: You have no god because you can afford not to have one.
And what does that say about any god?

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:that's almost only one generation ago!
The wrong thinking of dozens of generations cannot be erased in one single generation... it's a slow-ish process. People like you will become less and less, because most will have access to the information that correctly categorizes whatever supernatural experiences they may think they have.
OMG seriously? You'd think you'd have checked your facts before you went out on such a limb.
Ding!
for the US: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1690/religion.aspx
for the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_r...cal_growth



(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:If there is a god like the one you wish exists, and it does want everyone on this planet to acknowledge that it does exist, then I fail to understand why would such a being hide itself, thus preventing a growing portion of humanity from acknowledging such existence. OH, but you've replied to this before.... if people knew about god, then they'd have no choice, no free will, on this particular seemingly very important matter...
Well, at least you listen some of what i have said. A+
Well now, doesn't that give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside?
No god required! Enjoy!

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:If it's that important, then I don't want my choice to be based on 1)where I'm born;2)When I'm born; 3)Who I talk to;
i don't thin that choice is yours to make. You are like the rest of us, responsiable for what you have been given. start at verse 14: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
And yet, I observe it to be so... at least, with the vast majority of people.

(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:4)other people (I know that these are somewhat redundant, but it's mostly to illustrate the point). Nor should anyone else's choice be based on such fallible and shaky grounds.
Your reasoning has failed you here because you have assumed that everyone is held to the same absolute standard. When that is the furest thing from the truth. read the passage/parable above

People are held to standards?
I was under the impression people could do what they wanted.... but their minds tend to get wrapped up in their society and... not all societies are as permissive as ours.
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Part 3 - by Drich - September 14, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: Part 3 - by downbeatplumb - September 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 15, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Faith No More - September 15, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Part 3 - by The Reality Salesman - September 18, 2013 at 9:37 am
RE: Part 3 - by Bad Wolf - September 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 15, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Bad Wolf - September 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Silver - September 15, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 15, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Part 3 - by max-greece - September 15, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Silver - September 15, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Part 3 - by max-greece - September 16, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: Part 3 - by Cinjin - September 16, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Part 3 - by Silver - September 15, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Bad Wolf - September 15, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 16, 2013 at 9:27 am
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Silver - September 16, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 17, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 17, 2013 at 1:56 pm
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RE: Part 3 - by tokutter - September 18, 2013 at 12:21 pm
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RE: Part 3 - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 16, 2013 at 1:37 pm
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RE: Part 3 - by max-greece - September 16, 2013 at 10:37 am
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RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2013 at 9:41 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Silver - September 16, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 9:59 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 17, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: Part 3 - by max-greece - September 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 16, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Bad Wolf - September 16, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 16, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 16, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 16, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 17, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Faith No More - September 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 17, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Part 3 - by tokutter - September 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 18, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Part 3 - by Waratah - September 18, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 18, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Waratah - September 18, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Waratah - September 19, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 19, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 19, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cinjin - September 22, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Lemonvariable72 - September 22, 2013 at 6:11 pm
RE: Part 3 - by The Reality Salesman - September 18, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Part 3 - by max-greece - September 18, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: Part 3 - by Faith No More - September 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 17, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Part 3 - by gall - September 18, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 17, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 17, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Faith No More - September 17, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 17, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 9:27 am
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 18, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 18, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Part 3 - by The Reality Salesman - September 18, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 18, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Part 3 - by The Reality Salesman - September 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Cyberman - September 18, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 18, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Minimalist - September 18, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 18, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Part 3 - by Drich - September 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Part 3 - by pocaracas - September 18, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Part 3 - by The Reality Salesman - September 19, 2013 at 11:45 am

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