(September 18, 2013 at 11:48 am)Zone Wrote: Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse, you can't argue with that if you believe in supernatural miracles. But no you can argue with it, it was all made up. One rule for one one rule for all.Here you bring up another way to compare religions. The miraculous events associated with Mohammed were not in the Koran. They were introduced in later writings. Miracles are associated with Jesus from the start. Many speculate that the NT originated in a non-miraculous sayings document, but since no such document has been found, Christianity has this point over Islam.
Jesus could have been a failed apocalyptic prophet and a local legend grew up around him after his death.
Quote:This brings us back to my earlier point that things haven’t always been as they are. You’re correct that a cyclical universe is necessary from a materialist point of view. The first model didn’t work – the rate of expansion of the universe was found to be inconsistent with the model. Other models are now being worked on.
There doesn't have to be any supernatural powers at all it can be just one great natural order that always existed in some form, perhaps it runs itself on a natural cycle or rhythm with periods of expansion and contraction.