RE: Satan Disproves Christianity
September 18, 2013 at 5:22 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2013 at 5:32 pm by Zone.)
(September 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm)John V Wrote: Here you bring up another way to compare religions. The miraculous events associated with Mohammed were not in the Koran. They were introduced in later writings. Miracles are associated with Jesus from the start. Many speculate that the NT originated in a non-miraculous sayings document, but since no such document has been found, Christianity has this point over Islam.
The gospel of Thomas perhaps? Or that was based on the original source. I'm sure they're based on a man who actually said these things and had lead a small charismatic movement of loyal followers. The fact that the world was immanently supposed to end was a big thing of his but I don't think his prediction was right. He also seemed to have no interest at all in the Gentiles, not until after he died anyway but that was added in later. Mohammeds Night Flight is when Mohammed first discussed with God how many times Muslims were meant to pray and bartered him down to 5 seeing as he was a merchant by trade. These are all man made religions as far as I can tell, some are more a sophisticated than others but works of imagination.
Quote:This brings us back to my earlier point that things haven’t always been as they are. You’re correct that a cyclical universe is necessary from a materialist point of view.
I'm not trying to argue in favor of materialism necessarily. I would argue in favor of me not knowing and you don't know either. I think I have the high ground of honesty.
Quote: The first model didn’t work – the rate of expansion of the universe was found to be inconsistent with the model. Other models are now being worked on.
Would you rather we keep working on it looking for new evidence, ideas and theories or should we give up and call it magic?