(September 18, 2013 at 10:26 pm)Drich Wrote:Thank you for showing me your stretching ability. Seek here is used in the context of FINDING(not getting). In the parable he is not finding, so leaving the house is not seeking in this context. Why are you making the friend a neighbour.(September 18, 2013 at 6:32 pm)Waratah Wrote: In the story it does not say anything about seeking. There is no seeking, he knows where his friend is and that he has loaves. Please tell me where is the seeking in the story?in the story seeking takes place the moment the persistent neighbor left the house. For he could not be in a position to ask if he did not first seek the bread and leave his own house.
Quote:There is no knocking in the story to receive. In the story the only reason he received is because he kept on asking, no seeking or knocking. Please show me the knocking to receive in the story?knocking as described by Christ is the repetive nature of the asking, and the fact this man remained at his neighbors door step asking/petitioning his neighbor for the bread he desperately needed.
Quote:The one thing that I will admit is the persistent part I missed so I asked all night still nothing. So the above is still bullshit.Again the neighbor in the story did not stop a/s/k till he got what he was looking for. If you stopped before you got what you were looking for then you did not follow the directions in luke 11.
Your knocking reasoning is one stretch too far. Fuck me dead, way too far. hock: Again the neighbour instead of the friend. Any reason or is it just what you see.
The only reason the friend gave for not lending the loaves was due to him lying down and will not rise to give him the loaves. Therefore there is a time limit of one night(at least until he rises). I did follow the instructions. I asked all night and god did not give. As I said the above is bullshit.