(September 18, 2013 at 11:33 pm)Godschild Wrote:(September 18, 2013 at 5:48 pm)max-greece Wrote: Very clever
So verse 27 is talking about the second coming and the next verse is talking about the establishment of the Church (which, of course, happened first). Kinda confusing don't you think - seems to have caught us both out for a while there.
No, I think it's quite appropriate, we are speaking of Jews and they never believed Jesus would die until He was actually crucified. They were always thinking He would reveal who He was and put an end to their oppression, they still did not understand at this point in Christ's ministry it's true purpose. The church at this point was a true mystery to them, not until the day of Pentecost and their filling by the Holy Spirit were they able to see and understand the spiritual kingdom. All they really understood about Christ at this point was, He would establish an earthly Kingdom, this is the one the Jews are still waiting on.
Quote:From verse 28, however "....some who are standing here will not taste death before..." Now it seems to me that the period of time between Jesus speaking and his resurrection would have to be short.
The time at this point was probably a year give or take a little time.
Quote:Some who are standing here? All, surely - except Jesus himself. Have we stumbled on a in-joke that only Jesus would have gotten?
Well I wouldn't call death a joke, but yes Christ knew when each of them would die. I think He deliberately kept from them how soon some of these things would take place, He loved them and didn't want to worry them IMO. If it's worth anything.
Nothing major to add just a couple of things:
You reckon a year between the above and Jesus' crucifiction? I never thought of it as being anything like that long. A month would seem a more reasonable guesstimate - but I can't see why that would be important.
Actually I realized this morning that not all of them would make it to the resurrection. One specifically didn't - Judas.
As for this:
"You can't destroy my knowledge of God nor my faith in who He is, Christ said do not be afraid of those who hate you, they can only destroy the body, it's temporary I will get a new one."
I really don't think there is a single person on this forum looking to harm you physically. I'd be surprised if anyone actually hates you.
Is your faith making you paranoid?
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