(September 18, 2013 at 10:37 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: I knew this would be an old topic, but no way was I going to read through this entire website to find previous debates.Indeed I do, as I just looked it up.
Drich, do you know what ad hoc means?
In science and philosophy, ad hoc means the addition of extraneous[u] hypotheses to a theory to save it from being falsified. Ad hoc hypotheses compensate for anomalies not anticipated by the theory in its unmodified form.
Quote:Now, that is exactly what your post does.
Actually no. My theory does nothing of the sort. It does not change one single element of the theory of evolution, nor does it change anything whatso ever in the genesis account. all it says is we do not know how long it was from the final day of creation to the fall of man. Which we do not know. It simply point out the obvious error is established church doctrine.
Quote: It alters the meanings of the Biblical writings, and interpolates a great deal of speculation just so Evolution can be applied to Biblical revelation.It absolutely does not do any such thing. Again the only thing changed is the unfounded church doctrine that says the fall of man happened right after creation. Just because a monk denoted or placed Chapter and verse numbers along side the scripture does not mean verse or chapter numbers are tied to specific time frames. There could have been a day between chapter 2 and 3. It could have been a week, year, Trillion years Hundreds of trillions of years. The point is we do not know. Now couple this void of time in the bible with the fossil record, and all of the 'theories/evidence' that supports them. When you do, you will note 'science' has given us an estimated time that all of that took place. Now look again at the void of time between chapter 2 and 3 of genesis. Whatever time frame science comes up with will now simply fit between the time of chapter two and chapter three of genesis.
Again nothing changes in the documented History of Genesis of the theory of evolution. Only the perception of the time spanning genesis 2 and genesis 3. Instead of assigning or insisting that there were only a few days or weeks between chapter 2 and 3 I simply reinforce the bible silence and return that time to an unknown. Then I point to the theory of evolution and simply suggest that it in it's entirety can fit into that 'unknown' space.
Again nothing changes except the perception of the events in genesis, which was originally biblically unfounded.
Quote: Your theories turn Biblical "facts" into metaphors, just so the Biblical timeline can "work" with the evolutionary one.This is a Strawman.
I've changed nothing in the bible nor in the theory of evolution.
Quote:Although your post explains a lot of things moderately well, they are far less provable than anything Evolution has ever stated.The only thing that needs to be 'prooved' is that there is no time indicators between the end of creation and the fall of Man. And the bible does this quite well as it is completely silent on that time frame.
Quote: It's just Christians trying to keep their ideas from sounding like myth, and so it adds a lot of unsubstainable hypotheses ad hoc to make the Bible sound logical.Again by the true definition of Ad hoc I would have to add to a given theory to qualify.. I've added nothing, I've only taken away an unfounded belief.
Once that belief is gone, the two orgins accounts sync up on their own.