(September 21, 2013 at 8:33 am)Esquilax Wrote: Irrelevant; you've already said that if they did want to commit a sin, they couldn't.Incorrect. They were able to eat the forbidden fruit. Don't take your own unsupported twists and tell me that's what I said.
Quote:Whether they wanted to or not does not change the oppressive force at play; if I was physically forbidden from swimming, my desire to swim or not is neither here nor there. The point is, I couldn't swim anyway.Maybe that's your point. My point was that except for the tree they could do anything they wanted to do, and that statement is accurate.
Quote:You're trying to swap in preference as an excuse in a discussion of rules and their relative fairness. The former has no bearing at all on the latter.I started with preference. You're the on trying to make the swap. You're a really dishonest debater at times.