(September 21, 2013 at 10:15 am)John V Wrote: Which you've already asserted incorrectly. It's not oppression to keep people from doing something they don't want to do. When you need to warp definitions so grossly to make your point, you should just consider dropping the point.
Have you ever read 1984, John? It concerns an oppressive regime that brainwashes its citizens into compliance, so that they're no longer willing to commit acts that the regime has deemed unacceptable. Would you argue that they aren't being oppressed?
Again, the desire to commit an act and one's ability to commit that act are different things.
Quote:You mean the ones that Adam had no desire to commit?
You mean the ones he couldn't commit without punishment, no matter if he'd wanted to or not?
Quote:Again, it's not oppression when they didn't want to do it.
Brainwashing is still oppression. And what could be a more pure form of the act than creating the brain in question?
Quote:Your need to twist the definition of oppression is quite telling.
Okay, let's play this game, since you insist.
Definition of OPPRESSION
1
a : unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power
b : something that oppresses especially in being an unjust or excessive exercise of power
From our good friend Merriam-Webster. The second definition is the one we'll concern ourselves with: unjust or excessive exercise of power. Since you've admitted that all the sins remain in place in the garden, we can safely accuse god of persecuting thoughtcrime there, among other things. All the sins we atheists find pathetic and petty, you know the ones.
Interestingly, there's absolutely no word of desires or the countering thereof in this dictionary definition of the word. So, which of us is twisting definitions, here?

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