RE: Satan Disproves Christianity
September 23, 2013 at 12:24 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2013 at 12:41 am by Godscreated.)
(September 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(September 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: God worked and works through history, He never intended to change it, He wanted man to, but we did not so He sent His Son into history to redeem man.
GC
Bullshit. It was written by ignorant people to lead ignorant people and reflected the culture of that time. Just like for 3,000 years the Egyptians centered their beliefs around worship of the sun as a god.
Prove they were ignorant, please. What qualifications do you have to determine when a person is considered ignorant, or do you proclaim yourself as judge of the ancient people.

(September 21, 2013 at 2:12 pm)gilbertc06 Wrote:(September 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: God worked and works through history, He never intended to change it, He wanted man to, but we did not so He sent His Son into history to redeem man.
GC
Redeem man from what exactly? It obviously can't be things we know of such as illness, murder, etc...
So what exactly did he save us from?
He came to redeem us form ourselves ie. sin. He hasn't saved you yet but, for those of us who accept who He is and what He did for us by the grace of God we have His salvation ie. we've been redeemed!

(September 21, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote:(September 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Bullshit. It was written by ignorant people to lead ignorant people and reflected the culture of that time. Just like for 3,000 years the Egyptians centered their beliefs around worship of the sun as a god.
Brian37 is right, GC. If you study the religions of the world, and not just stay focused on one, you will see that religion is extremely cultural. Look at the Taoists, the Hindus, any Native American religion. The rules and heroes of every religion on Earth are affected immensely by the culture they come from, and not some undeniable source that everyone agrees with. That's why there are 30,000 different forms of Christianity. The only truth they share is that none of them know the truth.
All the denominations that believe Christ is their savior because of who He is and what He did are in agreement.

(September 21, 2013 at 2:21 pm)gilbertc06 Wrote:(September 21, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Brian37 is right, GC. If you study the religions of the world, and not just stay focused on one, you will see that religion is extremely cultural. Look at the Taoists, the Hindus, any Native American religion. The rules and heroes of every religion on Earth are affected immensely by the culture they come from, and not some undeniable source that everyone agrees with. That's why there are 30,000 different forms of Christianity. The only truth they share is that none of them know the truth.
Furthermore if you look at religious literature through structuralism you can EASILY see the ideologies that the culture wanted to push for their own agenda.
If there really was an omniscience, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent god then his "word" would neither look nor sound anything like hours.
Why not His word is timeless.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.