A small thanks to the resident Theists..

[catfish]

How do you know he didn't come into a goat herd...er, nvm. He did spend most of his time with twelve other guys though, just sayin'.

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I believe he came out of a goat herder's ass. Does that count?

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So that's a "no", you won't read the chapter then?

Already read it. Nothing in the context would exclude us nonbelievers because the statement "those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh" won't allow for it.

So, you claim to be one of those people 2000+ years ago who were attempting to teach in church that Christ was a spiritual-only being?

However, deceiver seems to fit the bill with you...