Strong Atheism starts from faith

[FaithvsFact]

(1) Please define what you consider to be the basis or method for establishing fact

Other than logical argument and deduction, I don't think there are any methods for establishing fact.

I am addressing this post to strong atheists who make the claim that "certain types of gods definitely do not exist. An atheist may be gnostic towards the non-existence of some types of gods yet an agnostic atheist towards other types of gods.... Strong Atheism is the proposition that we should not suspend judgment about the non-existence of a god or gods". This definition is from this forum "Important information for theists". They are entitled to make the claim but on what basis are they making that claim? That their claim is fact, at least in their eyes? Further on you say that facts are those statements that must be "true".

(2) Please define what you consider to be faith, and how do you see this is different from fact?

Having a belief in something without having good evidence to do so. I disagree with leo's definition. I don't think believing that the sun will come up tomorrow is a faith based position, since you have good reason to believe so, same with having a job next month.

As for how it is different from fact? Facts are true. Faith positions have a possibility of being true.

If that is how you are defining faith, I would like you to confirm that you agree to it because I would like to apply that definition to strong atheists and hear their views on it... especially where you say faith is "Having a belief in something without having good evidence to do so... Facts are true. Faith positions have a possibility of being true."

Once we've agreed on those two we'll continue.

I don't really see the point in this though. I don't think many on this forum would disagree with you, even the strong atheists.

My interest is from strong atheists who make that positive assertion as defined by this forum. I am not focusing on any other kind of atheist for the purposes of this scope.

I am not sure if you are a strong atheist or not, but I would like to hear from strong atheists about their answers to my original two questions.

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Well, I used to be a Strong Atheist.... before I realized that it was faith based.. so I'll answer anyway.
Agnostic Atheist btw.

(1) Establishing a fact, hmm, I think facts could be established if a statement is always found true, without exception. Like, the Earth revolves around the sun. At this moment, and thousands of years ago, the Earth has revolved around the sun, and it will continue to (until everything just falls apart)

(2) Faith is belief without evidence (my fav. definition, but there are other suitable ones) such as having faith in a spegetti monster existing, no evidence, therefore faith, not fact

Ok thanks for your definitions. They are useful and a strong atheist might hold similar definitions... but I notice that you are not a strong atheist so thanks for your time... unless you felt you wanted to contribute further.