(September 24, 2013 at 10:14 am)Drich Wrote: The opening line in my thread summerizes the actual theory completely.I still don't see how, and this is because you have been non-specific about exactly how evolution could fit in. Were Adam and Eve not humans? Were they RNA-based prokaryotes? Were there other life forms elsewhere evolving at the same time? If so, how would Adam and Eve be related to or relevant to human beings?
There is no time line between the end of the seven days of creation, and the Fall of man. (Basically nothing says how much time elapsed between Genesis 2 and 3.) which will allow you to potentially fit any version of evolution you want in that space.
Quote:The Genesis account focouses on a centeralized Garden perspective. The Garden was a sancuary built for Adam and eve to reflect the 'evolved world' at the time of the fall so there was no harsh transition..Harsh transition from what to what? What does it mean to say it "reflected the evolved world"? What is "the evolved world"? That doesn't mean anything in evolutionary terms. Life on Earth has always been evolving.
Quote:Now, that said if you are indeed a evolutionary biologist by trade then you should be well aware that the onis in on you to take an intrest in the data provided, if you want to be apart of this conversation. Meaning your going to have to suck it up and interperate the data provided in the formate provided (Bible verses and all.) No free rides here.Are you aware of how scientific discourse works? The proposer provides a clear, well-explained proposal. If the listener needs more explanation, the proposer doesn't just repeat her original proposal; she fleshes it out using clear scientific language. If that's good, then data is provided (where's your data again? Is that the biblical stuff? Do you consider that scientific data?). Then the listener looks at the data and determines if it supports the claim.
We are still at the first stage, and you are just repeating yourself instead of giving more detail and explanation.
Quote: For if you start to spout evolutionary specific terms, then I am required to ask you a question, or look the terms up myself, IF I want to be apart of the conversation. Same goes for you sport. Ask a question or bow out and let someone else speak.Yes, you are required to do that if you want to make scientific claims. You won't get very far unless you increase your vocabulary. Why are you resistant to that?
I AM asking you questions, and I am asking them because I'm genuinely curious about this idea of yours. You can answer them and we can have a real conversation in which we both learn something, or you can continue to dismiss me.
And I haven't noticed that I'm stopping anyone else here from speaking.