(September 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Drich Wrote: Good!Excellent.
You have an understanding of my core belief here so let proceed. any other questions?
If you are willing to look at this scientifically, I'll ask again: are we in agreement that the Bible is outside of science and that we will do this using available scientific evidence? Or do we disagree? This is not a trap, and not an attempt to get you to abandon your faith. It's what religious scientists do all the time when they are in the lab, looking at evidence. They aren't abandoning faith; they're just not using it to argue why they got a result they got.
And speaking of traps, I'm also not interested in the ad hoc argument. In a scientific discourse, modifying one's position is necessary and expected when confronted with evidence that doesn't square. Since I'm a scientist and you're not, I expect I will point out things you didn't know, and if you need to modify your position based on those things, I'm not going to claim that it's dead. This is the way such discussions proceed if they are to be useful.