Satan Disproves Christianity

[John V]

No. Testimony needs to be backed up by evidence. It alone cannot stand as evidence.

It can to most people. You don't get to decide what constitutes valid evidence for anyone but yourself.

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Hey John, why don't you replace the word "gnome" with the name of any god that you don't believe in. Any at all. That'll satisfy your requirements that people make the claim of having seen or heard or otherwise experienced this unverified thing, plus there would be people who wouldn't recant around pressure to.

I've done that here with Zeus and Allah.

Because the name of the phenomenon isn't actually the important part of the question. I think you know this, which is why you're deflecting.

The nature of the claim can indeed be important. I would approach (actually have approached) IPU differently than Allah, and Zeus differently than either of those.

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But *I'm* claiming that my grass growing means there must be unverifiable gnomes doing the said grass growing. You might find such a thought ridiculous or suspect that I'm purely making up this thought experiment in order to inspect your metaphysical conduct, but none of this matters.

I disagree. If you're admittedly making this up, that certainly matters. You guys look pretty silly claiming otherwise, so continue to do so if you like.