RE: Evolution Trumps Creationism
September 25, 2013 at 10:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 10:15 am by Drich.)
(September 25, 2013 at 2:04 am)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Well, there can be a great deal of races, although traditional anthropology only mentions five basic ones. So, maybe Noah did mate with his wife and have a Chinese son. Anything is possible through God.
The questions concerning human evolution still stand: How did man populate the Earth in just a couple thousand years? All man could do was walk on foot or ride a horse back then. The Earth is not small. And why are there homo sapien remains, dating back tens of thousands of years, all across the Earth?
Slightly off-subject, but not at all a "red-herring" are these quotes from the Book of Genesis:
Genesis 10:5-31
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands, every one after his tongue. (v.5)
These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues. (v.20)
These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues. (v.31)
Genesis 11:1
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Genesis 11:6-9
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language. (v.6)
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. (v.7)
Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth. (v.9)
You will notice that the "tongues" of Noah's children differed greatly, long before the Tower of Babel. This is still in line with your statement that race could have come before speech, but the Bible seems to be giving conflicting information.
Also, unless my understanding is in error, God was displeased with the building of the tower, so he punished the world with different languages? Wouldn't it have been more beneficent to God to keep one language, so that everyone, everywhere, could hear his word and understand it without misconceptions? Why sour the milk?
I see a lot of questions that make no sense, scientifically or philosophically. As I said before, your theories explain some things, but only evolution explains all of them.
Why the sour milk?
Because man was progressing too quickly and appearently in the wrong direction.
The Hebrew word that is translated Tongue in this context means one's literal tongue.
The first usage of this Hebrew word to mean language is in Neh13:24
Perhaps the usage indicates that people were divided by what they like to eat/taste in their food. It was not like it is today where we have the avaiablity of every type of food all the time. Regions aqnd seasons dictated what one ate.
For instance you may not like to eat fish, but if you live at the sea that would have been the majority of your diet. Say you had a taste for goat or cheese. This meant you had to live in a region that supported the food you wanted to eat. which meant you had to leave the coast and move in land far enough to raise goats.
(September 25, 2013 at 6:01 am)pocaracas Wrote:(September 24, 2013 at 11:44 pm)Drich Wrote: Why do you assume I am trying to play the faith card? You asked for proof. I need to know what constitutes as proof to you.Oh, Drich... Drich, ol'boy... that's not how it works.
A man who does not know what to look for, will fall for anything.
You don't set off looking for unicorns armed with what to expect to find (one-horned horse).
You just look at the world and catalog what you find... thus far, no unicorns appear on the catalog.
If you've found a god, then present said god for us all to marvel... if it's all in your head, then forget about it.
If you present a god which requires itself to be in our heads, then forget about it.
Why forget about it? Because it can't be differentiated from "it's all in your head/you're delusional/you're lying/you're mental". And that's an extremely important distinction.... is reality all in your head? Or is it really out there?
Again, so what are you looking for that proves that God is God, and can not be questioned or doubted once you see or experience it?
What is the Proof of God?