(September 24, 2013 at 10:42 am)Drich Wrote:Okay then, where is your proof that we have a soul?(September 24, 2013 at 4:48 am)Esquilax Wrote: Um, actually...Again The creation account was given from a centeralized Garden perspective. If God sat you down in the middled of what would be the Garden of eden at the end of day 6 this is what you would have saw in the order you saw it. Does it mean that other things did not happen before or since? no. It means if you saw if you were in the Garden this is what you would have seen.
So, for starters, even if we don't have biblical timelines for events, we do know for a fact that planets and stars do not form in a day, which puts a crimp in your "seven literal days," theory right from the start.
Quote:But that's got nothing to do with evolution, though. That's cosmology. In terms of evolution, your biblical account simply does not match with the fossil record no matter how far back we go. To begin with, we see evidence of human cultures well before your claim that the fall of man happened 6,000 years ago.All over the earth, there are cultures older than that, and we can demonstrate that they were there with ease.Again evolved man (man NOT made in the image of God/Man without a soul) lived and worked outside the garden. Man without a soul is still physically 100% Homo sapeian. The soul is a the Spiritual element of our existance. Souls are not needed to physically exist. Man out side the Garden existed and did what men do 10's of thousands of years before the fall. Only Adam was recorded as being given a soul, which he passed down to his children.
Quote: Secondly, our evolutionary lineage from ape ancestors to man is very well plotted, as shown in this list of human transitional fossils. This is in direct contradiction to your claim that man was created whole in the garden; we simply demonstrably were not.Again, Adam was the only one created by God, Eve was produced from Adam in the Garden. Evolved man/Man without a soul developed from the slim or monkies or fish, or birds or dinsaurs or anything else you like. outside the garden for bazillions of years till at the end of your established lineage you come up with Homosapeian. Which is how/why God created Adam as He did. He knew the evolutionary progress of man, would coinside with time of the Fall of Adam from grace. That way when they were expelled from the garden they could adapt to life outside the garden and pass of the the gift/soul to their offspring.
Quote:So, evolution and a literal reading of genesis are at odds. That's just the way it is.Appearently you did not read my thread very well, or you are so hung up on what you think christianity says your not willing to open your mind to any other possiable christian theories.
Quote:If you were open minded you would have exposed yourself to some biology textbooks, and never would have resorted to that idiotic "evolved from slime" canard.All evolved life on this planet started out as single celled organisms which had to be suspended in water. (Which makes slime) Maybe you should take your own advise, and stop assuming that I don't know what I am talking about just because I choose not to package information in the same what you were taught to expect to see it. True knoweledge and wisdom comes from knowing a subject well enough to not confine yourself to the traditional understandings of it.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
