(September 27, 2013 at 3:36 am)Drich Wrote:What do you mean here? I am confused.(September 27, 2013 at 3:31 am)Waratah Wrote: You have stated that your ministry and belief relies wholly on the fact of a/s/k. If your faith is so strong why do you keep avoiding my posts?
How many knocks will it take to equal an ask(with evidence please)?
Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must seek in luke 11.
Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must knock in luke 11.
I have already followed the instructions on asking in luke 11 and no holy spirit.
I have avoided you posts because Not everyone can play on the same level, so as a curtouesy I turned the other cheek,
Quote: even after I pointed out you have made an assertion that Seek and knock are not apart of the parable Christ Himself explains in Luke 11, when I showed you Jesus clearly mentions it on page. I asked you to either contextually validate your statement or change it to fit everything Christ says in luke 11. Your only response is to pretend that Christ did not say we must Seek and knock, and then pretend that I am hiding from you?!?!You are lying again drich. Here is where I pointed out to you the reasons why seek and knock are not part of the parable. (Separating links) Here is my next post with your reply of my post. After that post you did not reply in that thread. The beginning of your "hiding" maybe? So you have still not shown me where in the parable(not page) is the seeking and knocking. What you keep on ignoring is my requests for you to show me where in luke 11 does it say you must seek and/or knock to receive the holy spirit. This is your assertion which you need to back up with evidence. As soon as you can prove that seek and knock is needed to receive the holy spirit I will not be able to "pretend" anymore. Here is you chance to show how much of a fool I am.
Quote:When if fact I have pointed out a fatal flaw in your exegesis of Luke 11. If you will not answer my challenge to you to fix or contextually validate your assertion, then why oh why should I give you any more of my time, other than to point out that you are a fool that doesn't know what he is doing/talking about, or despite the evidence otherwise hope that I don't know what I am doing or talking about. whatever the reason you choose for yourself that still makes you a fool.[/quote]What fatal flaw?
Quote:If you want to play, then it will be by my rules. My rules dictate that your exegesis/explaination of scripture must account for ALL of what Christ says do in Luke 11 He explains the parable and says we must Ask, Seek, and Knock, not just ask like you said. If you want to continue to cherry pick and ignore what the bible says then I have nothing more to say.Here is drich trying to set up his out, "my rules". Again drich please show me where he says we must seek and/or knock to receive the holy spirit. Since I am not trying to find anything other than the holy spirit which you need to ask to receive it, not seek. I do not need to knock since I am not trying to open any doors. Now once again I have accounted for ALL of what I must do to receive the holy spirit.
It's as simple as that.
Quote:Luke 11:Oh drich here is the important line that is missing.
9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
Do you see it now? Or do you need to me to help you make yourself look more foolish?
13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
If the seeking and knocking was a must then it would say something like this:
13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him, seek and knock!”
Your post only answered one part of my post. So I am highlighting the rest of the post for you. The actual important part.
How many knocks will it take to equal an ask(with evidence please)?
Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must seek in luke 11.
Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must knock in luke 11.