Evolution Trumps Creationism

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God created Adam potentially millions of years before evolved man came on the scene. Maybe God wanted someone like Adam to share creation with.

God must be fairly antisocial if he felt two people was an acceptable number of friends for millions of years, then.

The Flood is the great bottle neck that eliminated all soulless humans. Maybe soulless man was the reason though his capsity of tremoundous wickedness God caused the great flood. No soul/No consciencous.)

Just you keep calling that god moral, huh?

Actually they don't. YEC's theology is loosly based on a Catholic dortrine of orginal sin, not the bible itself.

Fair enough, though my initial point was that others get a different interpretation from the same material, and how do we tell which is correct?

I simply Speak where the bible speaks and remain silent where it is silent. Got to remember biblically the only think I am saying is that there is not time line in the bible between Genesis 2 and Genesis 3. Catholic doctrine mandates these events were less than a generation (aprox 30 years apart) Some insist that Genesis 3 happened on day 8 of creation.. Again With no time line All of Evolution can fit, thus answering quite a few other questions in the creation account.

I'm not saying they happened, just that it is now possiable something like that could happen which again answers a lot of questions.

Sure, but I guess I'm still not interested in what answer resolves the most open questions, but rather which answer is true. Besides, you're still leading the evidence from the basis that the words in the bible are true, rather than allowing the evidence to take you to the truth unimpeded.

Again completely speculating... When people use to ask me what I thought was true about the orgins of the world I would say I know what the bible says, and I know what evolution says (Which is a whole lot more than any of you give me credit for) But I'm not sure what happened. No one does, and it is ok to say I don't know what happened..
Then one day I got tired of not knowing so I prayed about it, and one day while answering one of your/don't remember who exactly questions All of this was just down loaded instantly.. I just started typing and it came so quickly I had to read everything I had written in order to understand it all myself. I was writing and did not even know all that I was saying. After I read it I was like whoa, holy crap where did all of that come from? Then I started to look stuff up. After a week or two I posted it under it's own thread title, and a week later on a Christian site. Then it has been discussed 2 more times in different threads here and at least 2 other times on two other Christian sites. A doctor in theology has looked at it, and there is some research going behind this theory on a high academic level to biblically 'proof'/clean it up. All in all there are over 1500 different posts and or emails concerning this topic, and to date outside of the demand for absolute proof the atheist want, and the charges of undefined heresy from YEC's, this theory has held water and been unchanged or unchallenged in almost a year and 1/2 time.

If you're speculating that's fine, but I guess the next thing I'd have to ask is, how could one falsify this idea you've got? Falsifiability is key to scientific endeavors, after all; can you propose a mechanism by which we can test this? I mean, it can hardly be considered to hold water if it has never been tested.

Do you not remember my whole soapbox on dinosaur fossils? Mainly the stegosaurus? The absolutes you hold to as absolutes are empty shadows. Honestly question and scrutinize what you believe look at all of it like you would look at the bible and you will find yourself in the boat I was in. "I know what the bible says and I know what science says, and I know the truth, but I don't know what happened at the start of time. No one but God can know that.. Then where does that leave you? With what God has endorsed, and a fossile record plus anywhere from 1 to a dozen other possiable theories all designed to explain the fossile record and our orgins.

My point was that knowledge is demonstrated, beliefs are just held. You can't claim to know what you cannot demonstrate to be true. Also, I hold to no absolutes, but you know I'm not convinced that the bible is true in any regard; I'm holding it to the same standard I would any other claim, that's why I'm here asking questions. I don't mind entertaining ideas, just so long as there's more to them than "it is my belief that..."

Only Adam and Eve were immortal as per the tree of life, what makes you think nothing else died there?

That's the problem, I have so many different interpretations of Genesis to work from, it's kind of hard to nail the details down. The boys at the creation museum seem to think that death was a product of the fall, but I'll admit that my eyes tend to glaze over when I get near anything regarding that place, so maybe I missed something.

...Kinda like the Oil fields of the Middle east? Which are the largest oil deposits on the planet aside from what some speculate are beneath the ocean's floors. Which also proove that at somepoint in the History of the planet there was a massive organic life there that had been there for millions and millions if not billions of years, which now there is little to no evidence for.

Okay, so, you can't disagree with the premise my entire test was based upon, and then still use it to prove your point.

See what happens when you simply tell me what your looking for in the way of 'evidence?' Now if you could just define what 'proof of God' would look like to you then maybe we'll get to have sunday brunch together one day.

God would know what proof of god looks like to me. Why not ask him?

To be honest, all you need to do is swap out the noun for any other noun: my idea of proof of god is the same as my idea of proof of sandwich. I'm not putting a higher barrier of evidence before the god claim than I would any other claim.