Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence

[rjh4 is back]

rjh4 when it comes to your worldview there is not much to say. Christians in general base their beliefs on the bible which in more ways than one has been shown to be incorrect in the most mundane matters such as the various verified claims made and proven by the various scientific disciplines. My point is that your worldview makes unsubstantiated claims based on nothing other than a series of ancient texts. Not only do you make these claims but you assert that these claims are absolutely true.

My worldview does not make such claims unless it has been observed, experimented, and repeated by others following the same methodology. When it comes to origins I am content to say that I honestly don't know, but my lack of knowledge would not allow me to accept a so called claim of divine inspiration as the final answer. I consider myself a well grounded individual and am open to other worldviews considering they have some sort of evidence to substantiate their claims, other than "I feel, or have faith that such and such a thing is true". Blessed assurance is not a valid way to judge truth claims.

2 Timothy 3:15-17
15.And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16.All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17.That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

These verses sum up your entire worldview faith in Christ leads you to believe that the bible is inspired by your god. Very simple and not very convincing as any sort of evidence to support any argument.

I honestly do not see why you keep telling me about my world view, CP. I already know what it is and why you do not subscribe to it. I asked about the following:

Lastly, in two previous posts I said the following:

"You seem to hold to an atheistic/materialistic/evolutionary world view. It does not seem to me that such an atheistic/materialistic/evolutionary world view can support anything other than relativistic truth since it seems that truth, morals, logic are accounted for in such a world view as being solely due to the genetics of a person and the electrical impulses in a person’s mind (possibly as a result of other causes, such as environmental ones). If this is the case, from your world view how can you say that any other person’s view or interpretation of evidence is any more accurate than yours? Wouldn’t it just mean that they have merely different electrical impulses in the brain that are no better or worse than yours? Furthermore, it would seem to follow from this that interpretations and conclusions made in the scientific method would be subject to this same relativism. This, in turn, seems to lead to the conclusion that an atheistic/materialistic/evolutionary world view cannot account for any truth claims in any objective sense, even given the scientific method."

Please answer the questions embedded in there and/or explain where I went wrong in characterizing your worldview.

Does this characterize your worldview or not? If not, where do you differ.

You say that your worldview does not make such claims unless it has been observed, experimented, and repeated by others following the same methodology. Please explain then who observed the formation of the universe? When was it repeated? How many have done it? Or does your world view just omit everything regarding origins? Surely your worldview has a position on how the universe came to be...otherwise it wouldn't be much of a worldview. Certainly not one to take seriously.