Evolution Trumps Creationism

[Waratah]

So you have still not shown me where in the parable(not page) is the seeking and knocking.

Here is the translation that your first showed:

5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs. 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread[d] from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

<Snipped>.....You asked to see where the Seeking and Knocking was in the parable I showed you where in practice the neighbor sought and knocked, but because it is not spelled out in this particular translation (It was not narrated for you to see) you believe seeking and knock was not apart of the parable, but anyone with basic common sense would say that the fact that this man is out of his house so late at night looking for bread, means he is indeed seeking. The guy had to be seeking in order to ask. For if he were not seeking and he had just asked, the persistant neighbor would have been with in the confines of his own house, when he asked for bread. The fact that he was roaming the streets in the middle of the night meant he was SEEKING.

This the same explanation you gave me before. When I replied you avoided my post. So I and am pasting my seek reply here:

"Seek here is used in the context of FINDING(not getting). In the parable he is not finding, so leaving the house is not seeking in this context."

He asks his friend to lend him 3 loaves. He does not enquire if he has 3 loaves to lend. So therefore he is not trying to find the loaves because he already knows where they are.

In the above section it clearly states that it is a friend, NOT a neighbour. Why do you insist saying it was a neighbour?

Again in the parable He knocked repeatedly. Meant he asked the guy who was in his house over and over and over and over and over again, till he got tired of him asking, got his butt out of bed and gave the pest what he wanted. Christ Identifies this as knocking.. But because in the story Christ did not narrate this knock you will not or can not recognize it...

I am glad you finally agree that there is no knocking in the parable by stating that it was not narrated.
Now I would like you now to show me where christ converts the asking into knocking?

<Snipped>....And because you did these things so often I took the time out of my frustration with your obstinance to not only provide you with a connect the dots work sheet I connected the dots for you and explained them to you.

And when I did the dots I come up with
You would have to agree your explanation of knocking is laughable.

How many knocks will it take to equal an ask(with evidence please)?

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How many knocks did it take for the neighbor? One more than you are willing to give. Let me put it this way. What if the neighbor disclosed that he would only know for 5 mins before he left? What do you think the guy in bed would have done?

Just to spite the guy for coming over in the middle of the nigh I would think he would have waited Him out.

But because he was persistant and did not put a time frame on his knocking. He got what he wanted.

Allow me to further illustrate. I still knock. and I am flush with 'proof.' It goes beyond 'proof' into relationship at this point. I knock for further interaction, and Time with God.

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Sorry this is my mistake here. My question should actually be:
[b]How many asks does it take to equal a knock?

Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must seek in luke 11.


Please show me exactly where it says to receive you must knock in luke 11.[/b]

Could not work out quotes. This is drich reply to the above questions.
Again in verse 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.

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You failed to show me where it says to receive you MUST seek and/or knock. It is you cherry picking. In line 13 it clearly states what you will receive if you ask, the holy spirit.

Please show me what will be found if I "seek"? No assumptions please.

Please show me what will be opened if I "knock"? No assumptions please.