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I love religion!
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RE: I love religion!
adrian Wrote:If there are no higher powers, there cannot possibly be any objective meaning to life, or morality, or existence
And even if there were some sort of 'higher powers'... we still couldn't be sure of any objective meanings to anything, because that would require objective evidence, which we can't be sure we have :S

If there is an objective meaning to life, morality, or even existence: we cannot know it as subjective beings. And what is objectivity to begin with? As far as i can be aware: this is all my delusion. I can only define things for myself... and since i can define them in any way at all: it follows that anything can be defined in any way, thus the definition for anything is entirely based upon the subjective viewpoint of the definer... and thus there is no meaning without a definer (existentialism). Because there is no meaning without a definer (which is subjective): there is no objective meaning for anything (nihilism).

So my nihilism and existentialism are because of my subjectivism. Smile Actually, i wonder if one can possibly be an existentialist without being a nihilist, or vise versa :S I can't see how they don't logically follow from one another... and i can't see how agnosticism doesn't logically lead to subjectivism... and how that doesn't logically lead to existentialism and nihilism. :S <--would like to discuss :S
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 9, 2010 at 8:38 pm
RE: I love religion! - by LukeMC - January 9, 2010 at 9:06 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Rhage - January 9, 2010 at 10:21 pm
RE: I love religion! - by LEDO - January 9, 2010 at 10:58 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 2:56 am
RE: I love religion! - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 2:44 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 4:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by KichigaiNeko - January 12, 2010 at 4:19 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 10, 2010 at 3:57 am
RE: I love religion! - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 4:00 am
RE: I love religion! - by LEDO - January 10, 2010 at 9:01 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 4:04 am
RE: I love religion! - by LukeMC - January 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 10, 2010 at 4:16 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 10, 2010 at 5:31 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 5:36 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 10, 2010 at 6:14 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 6:24 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 6:46 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 11:27 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 10, 2010 at 6:52 am
RE: I love religion! - by leo-rcc - January 10, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 11:37 am
RE: I love religion! - by Rhage - January 10, 2010 at 2:17 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 11, 2010 at 7:48 am
RE: I love religion! - by leo-rcc - January 11, 2010 at 8:01 am
RE: I love religion! - by Violet - January 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 11, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: I love religion! - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 10, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: I love religion! - by LEDO - January 10, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 11, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RE: I love religion! - by LukeMC - January 12, 2010 at 2:20 pm
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 13, 2010 at 4:47 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 13, 2010 at 8:34 pm
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 13, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Lilith_86 - January 14, 2010 at 1:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by KichigaiNeko - January 14, 2010 at 2:59 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 14, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 14, 2010 at 1:14 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 15, 2010 at 9:48 pm
RE: I love religion! - by ghostlighter - January 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Tiberius - January 19, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 11, 2010 at 7:32 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2010 at 3:52 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2010 at 6:47 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 11, 2010 at 9:28 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 15, 2010 at 11:17 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 16, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - February 7, 2010 at 2:22 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - February 7, 2010 at 3:34 pm
RE: I love religion! - by fr0d0 - January 12, 2010 at 3:43 am
RE: I love religion! - by LEDO - January 12, 2010 at 7:06 pm
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 13, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: I love religion! - by Lilith_86 - January 13, 2010 at 8:03 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 14, 2010 at 8:36 am
RE: I love religion! - by ghostlighter - January 15, 2010 at 4:40 am
RE: I love religion! - by Tiberius - January 13, 2010 at 8:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2010 at 9:10 am
RE: I love religion! - by Tiberius - January 13, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Tiberius - January 14, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 14, 2010 at 9:52 am
RE: I love religion! - by LukeMC - January 13, 2010 at 10:03 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 13, 2010 at 4:19 pm
RE: I love religion! - by ghostlighter - January 13, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 15, 2010 at 9:16 am
RE: I love religion! - by Edwardo Piet - January 16, 2010 at 6:13 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 15, 2010 at 2:58 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 15, 2010 at 8:58 pm
RE: I love religion! - by KichigaiNeko - January 15, 2010 at 11:04 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Lilith_86 - January 16, 2010 at 2:50 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - February 4, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - February 7, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 15, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 16, 2010 at 3:01 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 16, 2010 at 8:47 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 16, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 16, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 16, 2010 at 11:00 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 16, 2010 at 11:46 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 16, 2010 at 12:23 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 18, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 20, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 20, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 21, 2010 at 9:35 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 16, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 16, 2010 at 7:09 pm
RE: I love religion! - by lukec - January 19, 2010 at 3:55 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zen Badger - January 19, 2010 at 6:06 am
RE: I love religion! - by KichigaiNeko - January 19, 2010 at 7:48 am
RE: I love religion! - by Violet - January 20, 2010 at 4:46 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 21, 2010 at 5:48 pm
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 22, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 22, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 22, 2010 at 2:19 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Purple Rabbit - January 24, 2010 at 4:45 am
RE: I love religion! - by tackattack - January 26, 2010 at 9:03 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - January 27, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: I love religion! - by Edwardo Piet - February 5, 2010 at 9:46 am
RE: I love religion! - by Zagreus - February 5, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RE: I love religion! - by David Henson - February 6, 2010 at 1:19 pm

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