Evolution Trumps Creationism

[Drich]

God is the producer of said evidence. Again 1/3 of the worlds population seem to have found it, 2% simply refuse to look as instructed.

So let me ask you this: can you envision a possibility wherein one could examine the evidence you're thinking of and not find it compelling?

Because if you can't, then that kind of points to a different problem than the one you're accusing us of.

You've moved the goal posts. This topic was not about compelling evidence.

It was about 2% of the worlds population calling the vast majority of the inhabitances of the planet alive or ever have lived crazy because we do no think like the 2%ers do.

It's like the 2%ers of the motorcycle community (the hard core bike club guys) calling the guy who rides his bike for fun a poser. Or a pretender. When in reality the 98%ers repersent what the motorcycling community really is! and it is the 2%ers who are out of touch with reality.

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The results of a/s/k is the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Here is the translation that your first showed:

5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs. 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread[d] from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

I have already proven you wrong about your a/s/k. I said I followed the instructions as stated by the scripture and I received no holy spirit.

It states all who asks will receive the holy spirit.

I asked for one night at least and still no holy spirit.

Why only one night you might ask? It states a time limit of one night(midnight until he gets up) because in the parable it states the only reason the friend will not get the loaves is that he is still in bed.


Let us just assume your right about such a thing as the holy spirit for the following.

Ask you will receive
Seek you will find
Knock you will open

To receive the holy spirit you must ask.(luke 11-13)

Ask+seek+knock = holy spirit correct
Ask+seek = holy spirit correct
Ask+knock= holy spirit correct
Ask = holy spirit correct
seek+knock = holy spirit incorrect
seek = holy spirit incorrect
knock = holy spirit incorrect

Do you understand the above?

Your problem is you see what is not there.

Here is a list of questions that you need to answer to have any chance to be able to say that you have to a/s/k to to receive the holy spirit.

In luke 11-5 to 13 it clearly states that it is a friend, NOT a neighbour. Why do you insist saying it was a neighbour?

Now I would like you now to show me where christ converts the asking into knocking?

How many asks does it take to equal a knock?

Please show me what will be found if I "seek"? No assumptions please.

Please show me what will be opened if I "knock"? No assumptions please.

Look I'm done this an arguement by ad nausium. You have your contextual answers. Youre wanting to argue a contextual explaination Christ Himself gave. I'm not Him your arguement is with him and not me so again I'm done.
Maybe you can save this for him when you see him.

Just know in your heart of hearts you did not A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11. If you stopped knocking before you received what you were asking and seeking after you did not follow the instructions.

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Belief in witches did not spawn from Christianity. Witch craft (not the hippy Wiccan BS) was an establish religion. One that the general populace responded very negatively towards.

Riiiight and the church played no role in the burning of any woman that looked like a witch over a period of 400 years across Europe.

In Slavery.

slavery built every world power humanity has ever known. To dismiss slavery is to dismiss those who made countries great.

And that makes it OK? Even if it were true (which it probably isn't - low paid servants could have done all the same tasks and more).

In the inferiority of the Black man.

Not just the black man, but all minorities. Which was true because of the political structure of a given soceity. Whether they be white black Asian or Hispanic. It is a simple observation made from a position of power. For when Spain ruled the world all Anglo races were inferior, why because the spainards restricted what Anglos could do in their regions of control.

We are not talking about inferior as a result of less rights. We are talking about the genuine belief that the Black man was a distinct sub-species of lower capabilities than the white man. This allowed the Church to exclude them from any of the normal rules (loving your neighbour and so on).

The same was true for the Japanese, Chinese, Germans, and Americans, as well as native Americans at certain points in history and yes even the black man where his numbers out number all other races. Like it our not where ever there is a prevelancy of one race or one culture over another then that race/culture will be the primary culture one has to yield his or her own culture to while in that societies space. A lessor man with a chip on his shoulder would say that makes him inferior, when in reality it simple means one is apart of a global community and can share the mantel of responsiablity that comes when ones own culture is in the majority.

Some can do this while others can not. Does it mean that a culture that can not share this title of ethenic majority responsibly and not oppress everyone else is better or worse than one who can? (Careful how you answer.)

Have you noticed how Christians never managed to behave better than anyone else. The highest aspirations of the religious to justify themselves is to prove that they were not worse than anyone else. That's what I call setting the bar very low.

In the inferiority of women.

Women simple have different biological roles to play. Different does not mean better or worse.

Equality as long as they are in the kitchen or the bedroom? Why does this look like its your current opinion?

That homosexuals molest children.
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If a man molests a little boy that by definition makes him a homosexual pedophile.

Scratch a Christian to reveal his inner bigot:
If a man molests a little boy that makes him a pedophile.
If a man molests a little girl that makes him a pedophile.

A man that prefers sex with other men is a homosexual.
A man that prefers sex with women is a heterosexual.

The one is neither more nor less likely to be/become a pedophile.

The crime of paedophilia is not determined by the gender of the child in question.

How long a list do you want?

You can make the list as long as you like just know that circumstance dictates morality. You are in a unique position to look down at every generation that came before you and find fault with how they lived, never taking into account how you would live in that exact same situation.

Put yourself In The middle of the zombie apocalypse, and ask yourself where your current morals would be? After if you take away the last 300 years of mod cons, that is the time period you are describing, the level of western culture, and a fairly good understanding of the danger and situation you'd be living in if you understood the word zombie to be a metaphore for the the desperate acts poverty stricken men were driven to.

No super cities, no real authority or government over the citizens and their actions. No one to answer to. In that situation where do you think/how long do you think your modern 'morality' would allow you to live? How long before your current 'morals' would see you eaten by a 'zombie?'

And what is it that separated us from the generations gone by? Is it religion? No.

Oh look - everything you have cited comes from science. Science allows us to enjoy a higher standard of morality than we have ever had. God failed to do that.

Thank you for proving that our morality does not come from God. It is so nice to find a theist who accepts this.

So, if the economy fails and there is panic in the streets, we will still have our science correct? So do you think A.) The panic in the streets of every major city in the world will result in just another oppertunity for modern man to exhibit his superior morality? Or B.) soceity will fall somewhere between The walking Dead, and Mad Max?

If science is the glue that you say it is then why does every projection we have point toward total anarchy? Is this because of God in your estimation and the bible? -or is it that full bellies and the system of society we currently enjoy allows us to be different than every generation before this one? Take that soceity way, and modern man will shame its fathers in the level of depraveity we will sink to, just because we lost our supermarkets and air conditioning.

You are a mindless drone if you can not recognize this fact.

Science does not make you a better person, the fact that you do not have to worry about your next meal, and your mod cons makes you a better person.