Evolution Trumps Creationism

[Waratah]

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Here is the translation that your first showed:

5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs. 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread[d] from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

I have already proven you wrong about your a/s/k. I said I followed the instructions as stated by the scripture and I received no holy spirit.

It states all who asks will receive the holy spirit.

I asked for one night at least and still no holy spirit.

Why only one night you might ask? It states a time limit of one night(midnight until he gets up) because in the parable it states the only reason the friend will not get the loaves is that he is still in bed.


Let us just assume your right about such a thing as the holy spirit for the following.

Ask you will receive
Seek you will find
Knock you will open

To receive the holy spirit you must ask.(luke 11-13)

Ask+seek+knock = holy spirit correct
Ask+seek = holy spirit correct
Ask+knock= holy spirit correct
Ask = holy spirit correct
seek+knock = holy spirit incorrect
seek = holy spirit incorrect
knock = holy spirit incorrect

Do you understand the above?

Your problem is you see what is not there.

Here is a list of questions that you need to answer to have any chance to be able to say that you have to a/s/k to to receive the holy spirit.

In luke 11-5 to 13 it clearly states that it is a friend, NOT a neighbour. Why do you insist saying it was a neighbour?

Now I would like you now to show me where christ converts the asking into knocking?

How many asks does it take to equal a knock?

Please show me what will be found if I "seek"? No assumptions please.

Please show me what will be opened if I "knock"? No assumptions please.

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Look I'm done this an arguement by ad nausium.

Bullshit. The only reason I have ever repeated arguments or questions was because you refused to reply to my post in this and other threads. If you actually answered my questions then this would have been over ages ago.

You have your contextual answers. Youre wanting to argue a contextual explaination Christ Himself gave. I'm not Him your arguement is with him and not me so again I'm done.
Maybe you can save this for him when you see him.

You stated that everyone could get proof of god via receiving the holy spirit. I read the relevant book chapter and verses and followed the instructions and no holy spirit. You said I did it wrong. No one else said that. My argument is with you.

Just know in your heart of hearts you did not A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11. If you stopped knocking before you received what you were asking and seeking after you did not follow the instructions.

Here is drich once again with his assertion. To make that valid you need to back it up with some evidence. If your faith is so strong you should be able to answer the following questions honestly and still say you believe in god. Go on it will not hurt.

In luke 11-5 to 13 it clearly states that it is a friend, NOT a neighbour. Why do you insist saying it was a neighbour?

Now I would like you now to show me where christ converts the asking into knocking?

How many asks does it take to equal a knock?

Please show me what will be found if I "seek"? No assumptions please.

Please show me what will be opened if I "knock"? No assumptions please.