(September 28, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Drich Wrote: You've moved the goal posts. This topic was not about compelling evidence.
And I'm not talking about compelling evidence either, I'm talking about you. You claim that there's evidence being presented by god, and that anyone who disagrees with it simply refuses to look at it correctly. My question has nothing to do with whether the evidence is compelling or not, but whether you would ever admit that a person could examine that evidence and still not agree with it.
The point being that right now, you seem to be falling into the trap that christians so often do, where their position is "either you agree with me, or you're an idiot or contrarian." If your position sincerely excludes the possibility that a person could look at the same evidence and come to a different conclusion than yours- if you won't even accept the possibility that you could be wrong- then we no longer have a conversation, because you've thrown yourself into dishonesty with gusto.
Quote:It was about 2% of the worlds population calling the vast majority of the inhabitances of the planet alive or ever have lived crazy because we do no think like the 2%ers do.
Hey, I'm sorry that the evidence doesn't match up with what you want to be true, but the universe doesn't bend to your petulant whim. If you're going to behave in a manner that is the textbook definition of delusional, you'd better be prepared to be called delusional by those of us who don't.
Quote:It's like the 2%ers of the motorcycle community (the hard core bike club guys) calling the guy who rides his bike for fun a poser. Or a pretender. When in reality the 98%ers repersent what the motorcycling community really is! and it is the 2%ers who are out of touch with reality.
Except that reality, existential claims, are different from positions of style or manner in that they're objective. Either your god exists or he does not; either the claims of your religion are true, or they are not. There's no point at which the number of people believing this thing will make it true. Unfortunately for you, the evidence, that which is verifiably accurate, does not match the claims you are making, and therefore your existential, objective claims are to be considered faulty.
People are the yardstick when it comes to behavioral claims like your bike analogy, but not with regards to reality. Unless you're actually saying that the moment 51% of the population becomes atheist, your god will cease to exist, and never have existed at all?
Is that what you're saying, Drich?
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