(September 28, 2013 at 2:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I guarantee you, the people who believe in those other things are saying the same thing about your religion. I guess that was what I was asking: given that faith exists solely to excuse those things you don't have evidence for, how far does the evidence need to retract from your position before you'd give up your faith?Funny that you guys say that we shouldn't accept testimonial evidence, then you expect me to accept your guarantee. I don't. Show me others saying the same things I've said and we can discuss the merits.
Quote:Oh, hush: evolution has a vast panoply of real, verifiable evidence supporting it, over many cross-corroboratory disciplines. We've made it happen ourselves, seen it in action in the wild, gotten nothing but confirmation from genetics and the fossil record, and each of those things could have put a serious dent in the theory.That's interesting - you really believe we've got nothing but confirmation from genetics and the fossil record? What exactly do you mean by that, and what evidence do you base that on?
Quote:Hell, my family breeds dogs; I've literally seen evolution happen, litter by litter. My standards could be crazy high and I'd still be able to satisfy them there.What did your family breed these dogs into? I'm guessing...more dogs.
Quote:And I don't accept abiogenesis completely. It has enough evidence behind it to merit consideration, but I'm not in the habit of accepting things until the evidence bears them out completely. So... hey. Kind of a divergence, but I'm happy to sort that out.If you don't accept abiogenesis completely, you do accept it partially. My Christian faith isn't perfect, so apparently I accept Christianity partially. Seems like semantics at this point.
No faith needed.