RE: Satan Disproves Christianity
September 29, 2013 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2013 at 9:37 am by John V.)
(September 29, 2013 at 8:55 am)Esquilax Wrote: Are you saying that followers of other religions aren't thinking that theirs is the religion that has the most evidence? Seriously?No, I'm not. I'm asking you to show that they're saying the same things about Christianity that I say about their religions, and then we can discuss the merits of each position. Maybe there are more martyrs among fairy believers than among Christians. Are they claiming that? Let's see it.
Quote:They'd follow a religion despite acknowledging that others have more evidence?I'm not saying they'd acknowledge it, I'm saying let's examine the claims.
Quote:Oh right, you're just deflecting because you don't want to answer the question. I understand. But fine: here's what I could be bothered to find.

Seriously? Why'd you even bother posting that? Silence would have been better than that link.
Quote:Here's human chromosome 2, evidence for human common ancestry with apes in genetics. Here's a list of observed speciation events. Here's a list of transitional forms from the fossil record.When you make a "nothing but" claim, providing a few instances which fit your position doesn't support the position.
All on their own enough to prove evolution to be occurring, but if I wanted to, I could also mention bacteria, nylonase, or any number of other confirmatory concepts. That's the kind of evidence I base my statements on, and it's exactly the kind of evidence that no creationist could ever hope to provide or rebut.
Again, I need to ask you what exactly you mean by "we've got nothing but confirmation from genetics and the fossil record?" I suspect that finding a counterexample or two will be easy, but I need you to clarify so you don't try to weasel out of the position later.
Quote:And here we have proof that you're either dishonest, or don't understand evolution in the slightest.I understand that artificial selection is not equal to natural selection, so I apparently know more than you about it.
Quote:Except christianity has no evidence, in the sense that abiogenesis does. You don't get to pretend that anything you've got matches up to, say, the results of the Miller-Yurey experiment. They're not even close.First, what constitutes evidence is subjective. Second, Urey-Miller has been thought to be based on an incorrect guess of the early atmosphere for some time now. You don't seem to keep up on things.