Satan Disproves Christianity

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No, I'm not. I'm asking you to show that they're saying the same things about Christianity that I say about their religions, and then we can discuss the merits of each position. Maybe there are more martyrs among fairy believers than among Christians. Are they claiming that? Let's see it.

Well gee, I think it's fairly implicit in the fact that those people adhere to their particular religion that they believe it has more evidence. Are you often around followers of other religions that are bummed out that yours has so much more evidentiary support than yours?

Seriously? Why'd you even bother posting that? Silence would have been better than that link.

So refute it. I'm well aware how spurious it is, as the nature of the site I drew it from should readily attest. I'm just saying, you're not alone in thinking your religion is the specialest, mostest true: everyone thinks that about their church.

When you make a "nothing but" claim, providing a few instances which fit your position doesn't support the position.

Again, I need to ask you what exactly you mean by "we've got nothing but confirmation from genetics and the fossil record?" I suspect that finding a counterexample or two will be easy, but I need you to clarify so you don't try to weasel out of the position later.

Alright, let me expand: no claim that I have been exposed to, from intelligent design or creationism, has held up to the rigors of science sufficient to be considered evidence against evolution. I fully admit that some might exist, but if they do, I haven't seen them, though not through lack of trying.

I'd be interested in whatever you can find to support that case, though.

I understand that artificial selection is not equal to natural selection, so I apparently know more than you about it.

Which is a red herring, because natural selection is just one mechanism by which evolution can occur, and even if it wasn't, your claim that evolution is one animal changing into another over a single generation ("They're still dogs!") is still completely incorrect.

You know more about evolution? So far you haven't demonstrated that you know anything.

First, what constitutes evidence is subjective.

Agreed. And so far, I've yet to see a piece of evidence for christianity that meets my criteria for actually constituting evidence.

Second, Urey-Miller has been thought to be based on an incorrect guess of the early atmosphere for some time now. You don't seem to keep up on things.

Oh, I know: but it still demonstrates that life can arise from non-living material, in theory. Much more than can be said for miracle claims, or the existence of transcendental beings and their back-from-the-dead avatars on earth.