(September 29, 2013 at 5:39 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Looking at the verse in question it appears to read as follows:
Those who A, X;
Those who B, Y;
Those who C, Z.
These are three independent clauses. X is contingent on A, Y is contingent on B, and Z is contingent on C.
In no way is this saying that X is contingent on B and C, Y on A and C, or Z on A and B.
Independent clauses are independent.
Then why did Christ combine all of the independent clauses in verse 9 of luke 11?
He says: Those who A,B,C with yield the sum total of X,Y,Z?
To assert there are 3 I dependent clauses here, One must first reconcile the combining of A,B,C by Christ in verse 9. Only then are you free to claim that there are indeed 3 seperate independent clauses here.
Remember this is Christianity we are talking about and Christ is the ultimate authority. Meaning if this is His parable, and His explanations of said parable, and He says it takes A,B,C then one from a Christian perspective one can not separate A,B,C simply because B and C are not paired with A, through out the equation. It is because Christ combined all three elements in verse 9 that from verse 9 on, all three elements are implied each time one is mentioned. This is the paradyme set in verse 9.
Again, To change it we must have a contextual passage recorded by Christ with in this context of this particular parable that shows Him again separating A,B,C resulting in the sum total of x,y,z.
That is something we do not have. Lest you or warpath can provide book chapter and verse.
Also thank you for translating for me. Maybe you can do the same for warpath.