RE: Why do Atheists spend so much time debatng the existence of God?
October 2, 2013 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2013 at 9:39 am by Tortino.)
(October 2, 2013 at 9:08 am)Rationalman Wrote: Religion, particularly the christian one, has caused millions of deaths and pain throughout history. It is a poison that corrupts everything it touches. To a christian, the truth of their beliefs don't matter, its whether they feel good. Otherwise you tortino, would be fine with slavery, rape, murder, genocide, infanticide, stoning. (I'm assuming you aren't fine with those)
Well, we have seen , an absence of religious belief has been the biggest destruction in terms of killings in human history.
Joseph Stalin killed over 20 million people
Mao Zedong killed 45 million...
Pol Pot killed around 1.7 million.
I am sorry, but the atrocities in the name of religion pale significantly when compared to people who killed when they had the absence of religious belief. Did their lack of belief cause them to kill? Who knows, but no direct link can be made. However, how can the teachings of Jesus be reconciled to killing someone? Killing and then attributing it to the teachings of Christianity is as non sequitur as me killing someone and saying I am doing it in the name of the New York Yankees.
And then the arrogance of the intolerance of religion. Doesn't the bible say to kill non-believers? And then they try and dictate the way I live my life, based on their cherry picked version of their religion. Thats why we debate the existence of god, the idea of god is dangerous. Its also intellectually lazy, just saying goddit has no explanatory power at all. They locked a man in his house for years because his new ideas conflicted with theirs. If the world had stayed as religious as it was during the middle ages, we would not have developed at all. We would be standing in our own waste, disease ridden, living in huts and dying at the ripe old age of 40.
No, the bible does not tell us to kill non believers. I am not sure where you got that from. Who is dictating how you should live? I never say "God did it". As I said, Under Theism, God gave is brains so we can study the natural world. Some of the greatest scientists have been Theists. As I said, science is built on the foundation of Christianity. Science owes a lot to Christianity.
(October 2, 2013 at 9:11 am)Darwinian Wrote: Back to the O.P.
Q. Why do atheists spend so much time debating the existence of God?
A. They don't!
looking through this forum and several hundred others (evidence) says otherwise.
(October 2, 2013 at 9:14 am)Rationalman Wrote:(October 2, 2013 at 8:58 am)Tortino Wrote: Intelligent design starts with the empirical evidence of nature and seeks to ascertain what inferences can be drawn from that evidence. Unlike creationism, the scientific theory of intelligent "
And if you have ever actually tried that, you would realize that there is no evidence for intelligent design. Just looking at an animal and thinking 'hmmm that looks like it must be designed', is not evidnece. In fact there is plenty of evidence to contradict intelligent design quite thoroughly.
Who determines if something designed? Is that a scientific question or a philosophical question? How do you prove if something is designed?
